Hi everyone
I seldom ask questions in the forum, but this one is really bugging me.
I posted this shot yesterday and I am happy with the quality and sharpness in LR. It looks so much sharper when I look at the processed RAW file in LR. I exported it with 85% quality and 2048 pixels on the long edge.
Can anyone suggest ways for me to get a sharper / better quality JPG for export and display on 365 please? I know there was a thread a few weeks ago about this, but I have tried the advice there and am at a loss...
Thanks
Debs
PS: I have just seen the comprehensive thread on this from a few weeks back (which I could not find). Thanks to Vera I have now! I will see how I get on from there.
I am noticing same problem. They look dreadful on homepage. Marginally better when clicked through to main page. But frustrated by it. Sorry no help but you're not alone.
I think you will find it is due to the process of compressing the image within this web application. If the option were to download, store and display at our chosen resolution the server space would be eaten up.
My images in Lightroom on a Mac area world apart from those on here.
@newbank@dibzgreasley Me too! Dreadful on the "home page", and slightly better on my "own" picture page. I notice it with some pictures more than with others, but I haven't discovered a pattern yet of which one look better and which not.
As Frank rightly says, this is not a site intended to display images at their best such as would apply to a dedicated stock photo site. SRGB is the standard default colour space for the internet, but you could end up with a lot of messing about each time to display the image at the best possible. That sometimes may not actually appear to be an improvement, more a case of accepting this site for what it is I guess.
I think it is in lightroom , it all looks good in develop then changes a little bit when you go to library even before I post it. I have my settings set to post to computer and change it when I make a print.
In Lightroom, do you "sharpen for the web" as your final operation? That may help. If you keep the large original size (I don't, resizing always if I upload for Web view and then sharpen, in Photoshop actually), the "sharpen for the web" view will look somewhat "over the top." This is something like William @wildernesswillie above is suggesting.
So many factors... When you upload a photo it's recalculated to different sizes for different usecases. Doing so will result in poor quality because the images are poorly scaled on the 365-server. If you're an ACE the original will be saved but not used for display.
If your image is used for display it is, in most cases, scaled again. Your image above for example is a scaled copy from your original (550 pixels wide) but scaled again by your browser to 450 pixels wide (the height is automatically called accordingly). Again there is a lot of quality loss because your browsers isn't very good at scaling either.
As Frank mentioned websites are not the best place for high quality image display. Speed (page load times) and file size are leading. There is nothing you can do about that except make a link to the original, which you can find in 'View all sizes'.
BTW. Some people use a so-called retina display nowadays. It's able to display images with twice the resolution. But the website must support it like: oh, you have a retina display? Ok, I will show you the same images twice the size, if I can find it in my repository :-)
if not you will still look at the 'normal' scaled images. I suppose there is only a handfull websites supporting retina. If you have an modern iPhone or iPad you will immediately recognise a supporting website by the quality of fonts, lines and images. Retina displays also scale images but the pixel density is much higher so the human eye will still experience the scaled image as sharp.
@mastermek Oh you are right. I have a retina display iMac and macbook pro... I see the issue!
Thanks for taking time to write such comprehensive responses, they are really useful.
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My images in Lightroom on a Mac area world apart from those on here.
If your image is used for display it is, in most cases, scaled again. Your image above for example is a scaled copy from your original (550 pixels wide) but scaled again by your browser to 450 pixels wide (the height is automatically called accordingly). Again there is a lot of quality loss because your browsers isn't very good at scaling either.
As Frank mentioned websites are not the best place for high quality image display. Speed (page load times) and file size are leading. There is nothing you can do about that except make a link to the original, which you can find in 'View all sizes'.
Thank you so much gents. So much to consider. I will try all suggestions and see what happens.
if not you will still look at the 'normal' scaled images. I suppose there is only a handfull websites supporting retina. If you have an modern iPhone or iPad you will immediately recognise a supporting website by the quality of fonts, lines and images. Retina displays also scale images but the pixel density is much higher so the human eye will still experience the scaled image as sharp.
Thanks for taking time to write such comprehensive responses, they are really useful.