So I was having a thought about this, I took a photo from the TV of a NASCAR race. I thought it turned out pretty nice.
I was wondering what your guys' take was on this:
Is is okay/still photography to take a picture off of the tv?
I figured since it was a race, it was okay. Not like i paused a nice scenery shot and took a picture.
What do you guys think?
I do it too. But a lot of sporting events have their sportscasters say, as they are sanctioned, always say something like...
"This broadcast is the property of XXXXX, and any reproduction, assimilation, or rebroadcast of the event without the express written consent of XXXXX is prohibited."
In other word, the Internet is Public domain, and the only person that rally cares about this kind of stuff is the Plaintiffs Attorney.
I am not a Lawyer, but work with them. Food for thought.
I dont see how they could turn out ok lol but i am more on the side of "not ok" but only because of licensing the networks have. But it really depends on what you plan on using the shot for I guess. I am talking in circles. Maybe someone else could weigh in.
If you are taking a photo of a TV that just happens to be turned on, that is one thing. But shooting a photo of something that is on the TV itself? No, definitely not good.
It is a violation of US broadcast law. So, even if you snap the photo just for fun (like for the New Year) it's still illegal.
@moncooga Be careful there! It is a common misconception for people to think everything on the internet is public domain, but in fact it is not. Public domain is something that is not covered by any intellectual rights. However, almost all websites have copyright notices at the bottom of the pages, including my own photography site. Therefore, the internet is not entirely public domain.
I know that I collect autographs and a lot of the people that I send to will not sign photos that are taken off of the internet because it has a certain copyright law on it. Some aren't as particular (usually the older stars) but the newer and more popular people will not sign the internet photos so I'll have to find something pulled out of a magazine or just send them an index card to be signed.
@brumbe yes, but you are using the broadcaster production to help you... their high def cameras, lights, colour balance ect... it would be like taking a photo of the Mona Lisa vs being at the event... where you are 'doing the creative work'
@icywarm It is always those Catch 22s that get us. I just wanted to provide a site to go to so that each person can form their own decision. It seems that there is a lot to discuss on this topic. I had a photo from tv last week and replaced it later in the day, just in case.
@chillbill A lot of people think that as long as you are not making money off another person's creative property then you are fine. That is absolutely, totally, and completely wrong.
When I was in film school, a couple of my friends made a short film with no budget, just using their own cameras and equipment. They took popular music from MP3's for the film's soundtrack. Later, they entered their film into a film festival and won third place. There was no cash prize for winning third place, it was an all-student festival at my school and was for fame only. At no time did they make any profit from the film.
They were nailed by the music label for stealing the copyrighted songs. See, it doesn't matter whether you make a profit or not, what matters is that you used someone else's creative work in your own creative work.
Giving someone credit does is not legal. Taking it without making a profit is not legal. And snapping photos of anything, whether it be sports, drama show, movie, even a commercial, on TV is also not legal.
@jasonbarnette Thank you for bringing up the point of giving credit! I've seen that posted a lot on here "Well, as long as they give credit..." sure, that's better than nothing or claiming it as your own, but it does NOT make something legal! If you take a photo of mine, and post it up and say "Photo by Heidi Gurov" doesn't make things all peachy and okay!
I have taken a few photos of what is on TV for my project as it is what I was watching therefore part of my life. I have always said the shot is off the TV and the TV logo is evident in all photos.
@jasonbarnette i completely agree, but i do have to chuckle a bit - i once helped a friend make a music video of a few songs which he wrote, no other music was in them, yet the music industry, in all their glorious wisdom threatened him with copyright infringement, for songs that he wrote. their reasoning... if they were on youtube, the music must have been stolen. it took several months of fighting for that to be cleared up.
At the same time, you are absolutely right, but i have to chuckle a bit every time i see the music industry in news about copyright theft.
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"This broadcast is the property of XXXXX, and any reproduction, assimilation, or rebroadcast of the event without the express written consent of XXXXX is prohibited."
In other word, the Internet is Public domain, and the only person that rally cares about this kind of stuff is the Plaintiffs Attorney.
I am not a Lawyer, but work with them. Food for thought.
It is a violation of US broadcast law. So, even if you snap the photo just for fun (like for the New Year) it's still illegal.
@moncooga Be careful there! It is a common misconception for people to think everything on the internet is public domain, but in fact it is not. Public domain is something that is not covered by any intellectual rights. However, almost all websites have copyright notices at the bottom of the pages, including my own photography site. Therefore, the internet is not entirely public domain.
http://www.wipo.int/sme/en/documents/ip_photography.htm
When I was in film school, a couple of my friends made a short film with no budget, just using their own cameras and equipment. They took popular music from MP3's for the film's soundtrack. Later, they entered their film into a film festival and won third place. There was no cash prize for winning third place, it was an all-student festival at my school and was for fame only. At no time did they make any profit from the film.
They were nailed by the music label for stealing the copyrighted songs. See, it doesn't matter whether you make a profit or not, what matters is that you used someone else's creative work in your own creative work.
Giving someone credit does is not legal. Taking it without making a profit is not legal. And snapping photos of anything, whether it be sports, drama show, movie, even a commercial, on TV is also not legal.
At the same time, you are absolutely right, but i have to chuckle a bit every time i see the music industry in news about copyright theft.