Seating for Lobsters Too?? by 30pics4jackiesdiamond

Seating for Lobsters Too??

I like the PoV. I like the subject too. But................... there's someting not quite right, but what?? Since been cropped based on feedback from friends. Now let me know what you think.............. all constructive help inwardly digested.

Anyway a high contrast B&W as challenged by Jay.
@jaybutterfield another go more on the lines you were probably thinking of.
January 9th, 2019  
To me, yes I like the pov but there are too many things going on and no clear subject. I want to pull in tight and macro that lobster pot basket thingummy because the patterns and light on that are so interesting. The missing middles to the cranes on the horizon make me want to draw them in! But I really like the wood textures too on the boards. Lots that I like but overall, I am not quite sure.......
January 9th, 2019  
My two cents worth- the tables are too centered (if that makes sense). I would have taken 2-4 steps to the left (from your standpoint here) and lowered the camera just a bit more so there was about a half inch less sky (that is the railings would lead almost to the top of the picture) and less black running along the bottom with a more complete view of the lobster pot. This would strengthen the leading lines of those railings and the planks of wood taking your eye to a vanishing point at the back of the picture. I would also clone out the two objects on the left- at least the poles that are sticking up- so that my eyes weren't distracted by them. The lower vantage point would also make the lobster pot a little more prominent and make it the subject with the picnic tables becoming the supporting cast in wait for the catch of the day. And if possible, I'd try to bring out some more mid-tones. The high contrast is nice, but I think softening some of the darkest areas of black could add a little more atmosphere to the "story" of the shot. But overall- I like this shot!
January 9th, 2019  
I like your shot, the woodgrain and the lobsterpot. I’m to new at this to give you advise.
January 9th, 2019  
that lobster pot is a fascinating subject and lends itself to black and white treatment, as do those boards, but yes, I can see why you're asking.
January 9th, 2019  
@shannejw there was so much junk to the right to avoid
@jacqbb your opinion is valuable Jacqueline
@olivetreeann I do think it's over processed!! Thanks for taking time to advise, I did have to avoid ugly junk to the right
@casablanca thank you for doing this, the cranes annoy me too it's just not balanced is it?! Also over processed

January 9th, 2019  
if there was so much stuff to the right, how would it have worked to have gone further left, so the lobster pot was even further into the frame? and using the boards to take the eye further on and losing the cranes that way?
January 9th, 2019  
I like the image
January 9th, 2019  
I think the viewpoint is fine but you've lost the detail of the seats, lobster pot and cranes. It may be that B&W just doesn't suit the picture πŸ™‚
January 9th, 2019  
@johnsutton @Dawn @shannejw @jacqbb @olivetreeann @casablanca

Went to picmonkey and did a crop, couldn't rescue the darkness- but I think this is a little better. John I think you're right about it not suiting BnW, but how do you know what will suit BnW as I look through the view finder.
@jaybutterfield this is a different version to what I originally posted based on feedback from above.
January 9th, 2019  
Oh yes, much better! Now my eyes follow a direct line from the lobster pot through the tables and off into the distance. Nice crop! As for "how do you know it will be a good black and white"? I generally shoot in color and convert to black and white. That gives me a bit more leeway with how much contrast I put in. Others will shoot in RAW and then tweak the monochrome adjustments. But that's more about shooting. You're asking an "artistic" question and the way I answer that is it really depends on what you want to convey in the picture. Color has a completely different feel- and sometimes it makes the picture all about the color more than the subject. But black and white is truly about the feeling of a shot- not to say color can't do that but in my opinion black and white seems to do it more. So it's really up to you as to which mode you'll shoot in. For this shot, I think black and white was an excellent choice! (And not to blow my own horn, but after 7 years of hosting the black and white February challenge "Flash of Red" I wrote this which might be of interest to you: https://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Black-White-Photographers-Monochrome-ebook/dp/B0798X7Y98/ref=sr_1_4?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1547064455&sr=1-4&keywords=Ann+LeFevre)
January 9th, 2019  
@olivetreeann thank you so much Ann. I always enjoy the February challenge and get better at it as the month goes on. My photography has moved on so much in three years here, due to practice, that I'm sure by end of 2019 I'll be better at monochrome. Thank you so much for taking time to help me out here 😎
January 9th, 2019  
@30pics4jackiesdiamond Better in lots of ways though I still want to sneak in closer to,that lobster pot!
January 9th, 2019  
I prefer this composition with more lobster pot in focus
January 9th, 2019  
I agree with everyone else that it’s a great photo and I especially like that low POV
January 10th, 2019  
@grammyn thank you, I love this community as feedback so kindly helpful!!
@shannejw it works better thank you for your input
@casablanca I'll take you to the cafe if you ever come this south
January 10th, 2019  
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