It was time to admit defeat on yesterday's get-pushed photo and say it was more shadow than reflection, so today, I pulled out my makeup mirror, an old glass thimble shot glass, my grandmother's magnifying glass, a flower from the garden, and the back of a place mat. Outside I went to show a little of the fall color. As I look on this scene, I see circles and lines too. But reflection all over (even in the magnifying glass this time.
I apologize for the limited commenting on my part. Entering last week of classes for this short term. Hopefully by Sunday, I'll have a moment to breathe.
Reflections! Reflections! Reflections! Yes!!!
(But it would be better to characterize yesterday's not as defeat but as part of the learning curve. I joined you on that learning curve!)
@jyokota I'm a stubborn gal I am! It really is a learning curve, and I really appreciate your help too! :) Loved the photo you showed me on the other photo. How is the montage going? Any ideas?
@darylo the more I research montage, the more confused I am, but I think at this point, I'm thinking it's a series of images that creates a story rather than a collection of images. How clear is THAT? :)
@jyokota Ah, I see. So many of your photos tell stories! Would you end up making the series this week to put in the montage or can you pull from some of the older ones to create the montage?
I was prepared to not like the B&W because the colored one was so fabulous but there is a clarity to this shot that is lost in all the color of the other one!
@jyokota I'm loving this thread. Daryl, this shot is spot on as they say in other parts of the world. A brilliant composition that uses actual reflections of the objects (i.e., we can see them as reflected, upside down, or whatever, and their relationship to the actual object). AND, it's a gorgeous shot. The mono processing was a GREAT decision for the composition. If it's not in the final 5, I'd be surprised!
Re montage -- I think Junko's emphasis on the narrative is what I also understood from trying to sort it out, but it is confusing. I think a collage is a collection where a montage conveys something more. What that 'more' is, is the part that is not exactly clear to me -- a story, a set of thematically related ideas. Collage definitions refer to creating something new from images, like new forms or a new 'whole' so I've wondered if the montage idea of 'compressed narrative' is what distinguishes it from the idea of a 'new whole' by putting pieces of something together.
@taffy -- you often do series of photos -- would you characterize your Wait for Me as a montage? or do you have another one you've done that you think better characterizes it? Thanks for mulling over this with me . . . very helpful!! @la_photographic -- just to let you know I've called in friends to help me with my challenge!
@jyokota I think that one comes closest as it is a compressed narrative, possibly the one of Nutmeg on the 21st of June if thought of as a narrative of her life. But it might also simply be a collage if thought of as a thematic collection of photos. I don't. There was one of a bud and the flower (can't remember when I did it, but in spring) that may be montage more than collage. But the more I think about it, the less clear it gets!!
@darylo@jyokota Looking at that example, I see a story -- a compacted narrative. That's what I'm starting to think is the deciding thing for montage, but am not confident that I'm correct in that. And you're right about the label -- there are collage tools but not montage tools.
(But it would be better to characterize yesterday's not as defeat but as part of the learning curve. I joined you on that learning curve!)
Re montage -- I think Junko's emphasis on the narrative is what I also understood from trying to sort it out, but it is confusing. I think a collage is a collection where a montage conveys something more. What that 'more' is, is the part that is not exactly clear to me -- a story, a set of thematically related ideas. Collage definitions refer to creating something new from images, like new forms or a new 'whole' so I've wondered if the montage idea of 'compressed narrative' is what distinguishes it from the idea of a 'new whole' by putting pieces of something together.
I keep thinking of your stages and seats or the art installations you capture