ProPhoto RGB Help

February 3rd, 2013
I am using the trial version of CS6, my photos are saving with the ICC Profile: ProPhoto RGB...when I upload them to 365 or FaceBook the color is getting VERY messed up. If I uncheck the ICC Profile box it saves it to my computer with the messed up color. :(

Any help???
February 3rd, 2013
@hopess13 By unchecking the ICC Profile box you are simply not embedding the profile information in the file, so most viewers will default to sRGB (as that's what 99.9% of files without an embedded profile are). This is why those photos look bad on your computer -- it is rendering it incorrectly, as the website does.

For web use, you also need to use sRGB. The trick is to convert the image into the sRGB space in your editing software prior to saving. In Photoshop CS6 you do this by going to Edit -> Convert to Profile, and choose a destination space of sRGB (probably right at the top of the drop-down list). The other options can stay as default.

Make sure you choose 'Convert to Profile', not 'Assign Profile', as that will also mess up the colours.

If you have a good reason for using ProPhoto RGB for your workflow, you may wish to save the sRGB images separately, as you are technically losing colour information by using sRGB instead of ProPhoto RGB. However, if you are not using ProPhoto RGB for a specific reason, it would be easier to simply convert your workflow to use sRGB throughout. The culprit introducing ProPhoto RGB into the mix is probably Lightroom, which defaults to this when sending files to an external editor like Photoshop. (In Lightroom 4, the setting to control this is in Edit -> Preferences -> External Editing, Edit in Photoshop CS6 section, Color Space).
February 3rd, 2013
OH!!!!! Lightroom, I did just learn that I could easily switch a LR image to PS for editing, I will go look at my Preferences there.

Thank you so much!!
February 3rd, 2013
@abirkill confused.com as to what my settings should be now in External editing in LR, mine, in the Edit in CS6 is, file format PSD, Color Space ProPhoto RGB, Bit Depth 16 bits/component and resolution 240..is that ok? thank you
February 3rd, 2013
@hopess13 You will love it. It saves so much time=)
February 3rd, 2013
@markyl Those settings mean that any photo you send from Lightroom to Photoshop will be sent in the ProPhoto RGB colourspace.

That's fine if you understand colour management, want the larger colour gamut that ProPhoto RGB provides, and are going to remember to convert your images to sRGB before uploading them anywhere on the web.

However, the advantages of ProPhoto RGB are (in my opinion) so small, and the pitfalls so large in their ability to screw up the colours of your photo when you upload, print or send it to someone, that I would recommend keeping your workflow in sRGB throughout, as that means that you don't need to understand colour management -- what you see is what everyone else sees, always. If you have uploaded photos here that don't look quite the same as they did on your computer (less contrasty, less saturated, slight colour shifts, etc.) you have fallen prey to colour management issues by using ProPhoto RGB (or another colourspace that's not sRGB).

If you want to avoid all this and stick to sRGB throughout, you should change the Color Space setting you saw in Lightroom from ProPhoto RGB to sRGB. That will mean photos get sent to PhotoShop in the sRGB colourspace, and you don't need to remember to do any conversion before saving and uploading to the web -- you are using the 'standard' colourspace.

If you want to learn more about ProPhoto RGB and why you would use it (and there are perfectly valid reasons) then there's a good, although rather technical, article about it here:

http://www.outbackphoto.com/color_management/cm_06/essay.html
February 3rd, 2013
I agree with Alexis - certainly for anything destined for 365..
February 4th, 2013
Thanks! Got it changed over and used the handy dandy Edit with PicMonkey option to change out my latest pic. :D
August 21st, 2013
@abirkill And this one is the one I need!!! Thank you!
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