Not sure if this should be in general or tips and tricks, but I'll post it in general to start it off.
Anyone know if there's a way to get photoshop to keep your exif data when you convert from a raw file to a jpg, or when starting out with a jpg and resaving?
My usual upload procedure is
Open in photoshop,
resize to 650 longest side.
add a border
add a signature
save for web jpg
add a W in the file extension (for web, P for print R from raw ect)
Upload to 365.
add back all teh shooting data in my photos description (for those that are curious)
Today, for giggles I used a raw file and saved through bridge. The file size stayed the same but I was able to add the W extension. On uploading the exif was there. what is it about a)my save process b)photoshop c)the evil squirrel that lives in my computer that gets rid of the exif.
Sorry if I'm being confusing or dense, only partway through my first cup of coffee (yes I realize it's 11am)
it is the save in photoshop that is killing it, because after the resize, border and signature it is not longer the photo so the exif data is stripped... well that is the logic... which PS are you using and I can post the work around...
quick read of PS manual... don't use the save for web jpg... that is where you lose it... export or save copy as... you don't need to downsize... you do that manual... so just save as a regular jpg or png...
I'm pretty sure the exif data is removed at the "save for web .jpg" stage.
I do most of my post processing in Aperture 3 but if I do edit in PS, I have an action that will resize the image so it is 1000 px on the longest side and reduces the resolution to 100 dpi (I usually open at 300 dpi). I then save this to jpg through the "normal" save option instead of using the save for web option. I haven't had any problems with losing exif data with this method.
that'd explain it. blerg. I like save for web, makes for smaller file sizes, and *less* likely to get "borrowed" by someone else, at least that's my theory >.>
ok... than do like lisa says and resize to 650-1000 at 100 dpi... which is too small for print but fine for internet... you can likely get to 75 dpi no trouble...
Completely off the exif topic, but since dpi came up..... 10 years ago it was drilled into me to use 72dpi for web, 300 for print, what I've never understood is why when you open up a jpg in photoshop, even from my dslr, it will always show up as 72dpi. Raws show up higher, but I'm lazy and usually end up just grabbing the jpg, or even (sit down before you have heart attacks) not even bother to shoot raw.
Any links are appreciated, headed to Uluru in a few days. Maybe I need to mend my ways before we go, even though there are all sorts of restrictions on publishing and printing photos.
her is something that will BLOW your mind... DPI is MEANING LESS!!!
All That matters is actual resolution...
if there are 1000 pix... on a screen that is 800x600 it will be bigger than a screen...
for a print which will resize to the size of paper it will be roughly 200 dpi for a 4x6 100 for an 8x10 ect... and that is what matters!
On the computer 72 dpi looks ok and that is what 99% of monitors aim for... for prints anything from 150 - 300 is fine ( a secret is most photo labs only print at 250 to save ink)
What @icywarm said - DPI means nothing if you are using actual pixel dimensions for your sizing. It doesn't matter, at all, what DPI setting you use for posting an image on the web, unless you are using physical dimensions (inches) to size your images. I don't even use DPI for print - I specify the actual pixels needed to get the size I want for the particular printer, which I calculate myself based on the printer's native PPI (300 for photo lab, 240 for Epson, 360 for Epson with fine text etc).
When you "save as" you will have the option of reducing the quality. Knock it down from 12 to 8 and you will see no real difference. Knock it down to 5 and you have roughly "save for web" quality anyway, but with a little more data due to the EXIF embedded in it.
@icywarm@jinximages Usually I ignore dpi, it's something that bothers me every now and then but I just end up going back to ignoring it.
I resize by setting (most all) my image to be 650px longest side, leaving the resolution at the default 72. Probably dates back to my early days of web design classes when we were told to keep a page design to 800px wide max because, as I remember my professor saying, "that's the size screen most people have"
yes, you may all go *rofl* now
Cant remember the last time I printed an image. Probably 4 years ago when I did a photobook and was annoyed because my images were too large for their printing plates *rolls eyes*
based on your comments about printers jinx looks like I'll need to find a place to work with me if I do ever end up deciding to get canvasses done up.
@neda yes local pro shops are a must... in a hurry I used walmart last night for some sample... I get the package and they are all B&W glossy... odd when I ordered matt... i goto the kid at the counter and he is all "oh yeah we are out of matt, didn't think you'd mind if it was glossy..." well ok that makes sense... next time it is gentlemen's choice... heck... why even give me 5x7 at $2 each... that is only $30 for something I don't want...
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I'm pretty sure the exif data is removed at the "save for web .jpg" stage.
I do most of my post processing in Aperture 3 but if I do edit in PS, I have an action that will resize the image so it is 1000 px on the longest side and reduces the resolution to 100 dpi (I usually open at 300 dpi). I then save this to jpg through the "normal" save option instead of using the save for web option. I haven't had any problems with losing exif data with this method.
i just tried it and it wiped all exif data.
you need to do a regular "save as" and then for "format" type, select jpg
this should do it :))
@icywarm I'm running photoshop cs3.
@fillingtime
and @taidster for suggesting I start the thread !
http://365project.org/neda/365/2010-02-07
exif data listed, saved as a copy (instead of for web). at 208kb it's twice my normal file size, but 365 knows the date it was taken ! wow that's easier!
Completely off the exif topic, but since dpi came up..... 10 years ago it was drilled into me to use 72dpi for web, 300 for print, what I've never understood is why when you open up a jpg in photoshop, even from my dslr, it will always show up as 72dpi. Raws show up higher, but I'm lazy and usually end up just grabbing the jpg, or even (sit down before you have heart attacks) not even bother to shoot raw.
Any links are appreciated, headed to Uluru in a few days. Maybe I need to mend my ways before we go, even though there are all sorts of restrictions on publishing and printing photos.
All That matters is actual resolution...
if there are 1000 pix... on a screen that is 800x600 it will be bigger than a screen...
for a print which will resize to the size of paper it will be roughly 200 dpi for a 4x6 100 for an 8x10 ect... and that is what matters!
On the computer 72 dpi looks ok and that is what 99% of monitors aim for... for prints anything from 150 - 300 is fine ( a secret is most photo labs only print at 250 to save ink)
When you "save as" you will have the option of reducing the quality. Knock it down from 12 to 8 and you will see no real difference. Knock it down to 5 and you have roughly "save for web" quality anyway, but with a little more data due to the EXIF embedded in it.
I resize by setting (most all) my image to be 650px longest side, leaving the resolution at the default 72. Probably dates back to my early days of web design classes when we were told to keep a page design to 800px wide max because, as I remember my professor saying, "that's the size screen most people have"
yes, you may all go *rofl* now
Cant remember the last time I printed an image. Probably 4 years ago when I did a photobook and was annoyed because my images were too large for their printing plates *rolls eyes*
based on your comments about printers jinx looks like I'll need to find a place to work with me if I do ever end up deciding to get canvasses done up.