This is the only shot I want to put up of the night as the others remind me of how badly the night ended. This camera of mine got me into trouble. I took some pics of the dance practice some weeks ago after asking if anyone minded and they didn't. However one of the group objected without telling me and ever since has given me a hard time. At this public event when I asked if I could take a pic of the whole table she erupted into the most foul language. Later on her side kick came over to order me to get John to move somewhere else. He was standing near them. She used the F word and the C word to him, got some guys in who shoved John on to the floor pushed him right on to his back. Then the Manager came in and asked us to leave or he would call the police! Most unfair and quite a shock! Bye bye line dance!
That lady is the one who caused all the trouble & should have been the one to leave. Hmmmmm. C word to him? I shouldn't be laughing but it is probably best you get out of this group. Tai Chi sounds harmless ;-)
So sorry that this happened to you, Maggiemae. I used to love capturing candids but have become very uneasy over time. So you can't take pics of people, and some people don't want pics of their property taken (i.e. farmland) and I was told that I couldn't take one of an eagle in a tree. What's left?!! One day a guy didn't want me taking one of his car ...and I wasn't getting his license plate in it. Geez ....it's an angry world out there sometimes. But love your candid capture and glad that you weren't hurt or anything.
This is a horrible story and I'm stunned. I'm afraid things are becoming more and more uncivilized. I hope John did not get hurt. Love the characters you captured, though I assume the whole night left a bad taste in your mouth.
@ptowncook Thanks Laura - John's got a sore jaw when this guy forced him down on the floor - hand round the throat! Its like a nightmare! I'm ok and my wound from the mole excision is not sore!
It is so sad when things like this happen, maggiemae. I hope it doesn't stop you from taking candid shots. You do such a great job and I love viewing your photos.
good heavens! this sounds completely uncalled for... was it really necessary for them to stoop to physical violence? and not just spur of the moment knee-jerk reaction violence, but let-me-see-if-i-can-find-someone-to-hit-you-on-my-behalf violence??? THEY are the ones who should have been asked to leave... what on earth is this world coming to? i'm so sorry this happened to you Maggiemae :(
I hope John is ok after that altercation. I agree the other women and her friends should have been the ones to leave. If they did not want any pictures taken they should have just said so in the beginning instead of causing a scene and injuring other people. I hope there are other social outlets that you can enjoy and do not have to be where these uncivilized ruffians are. Keeping on clicking Maggiemae we love your photos.
I am so sorry to read this! Jeff and I used to line dance years ago and we had such a great time. And the people were great too. But this seems incredible. I know it's probably not politically correct to say this but I bet alcohol was involved. Every time I've seen someone out of control at a party it's because they're drunk. At any rate I am so sorry it happened to you and I'm glad that you and John are alright. A letter to the management or owner might be in order. Don't let it sour your taste for humanity. One bad apple...
@olivetreeann@tesnonian it is so good to hear your words! Puts it all in the right light! Never had this happen in my life! So as you say... One bad apple!
It's just a picture for Pete's sake!!! I wonder what her problem was? Well, hope John is okay and wish they would have kicked the other lady out. Keep on snapping we love your pics here!!!!
What a horrible thing to happen! Glad neither you nor John were hurt. I hope your nurse is still there to take care of you. Better take up kick boxing!
Not the same, but similar. Taekwondo is a Martial Art with kicks at its core.
Kickboxing combines the standard techniques of boxing with basic kicks. maybe you should just try Yoga :)
Wow, sorry to hear about your night, Maggiemae. In the states you ask permission from the owner of the place or manager of the place. If outside in public anything goes, per our first amendment, you can take photos outside. It does not mean that someone will not get upset though. I would not like a photo taken of me by just anyone. I do not know how your laws work there but maybe a sign saying photos are allowed for all to take if agreed by the owner or management. Such a sad and extreme thing to happen as you never do know people and would be nice if you were approached and told that this woman did not want photos taken at all in the beginning. I know someone who refuses to let anyone take her photo. I do not even ask why. I would not go back to this place and hope John is ok.
@darsphotos Thanks Darlene - I do think you might be right in this respect. However I was invited to take photos by one of the committee. You are a strong woman and I appreciate your advice!
@maggiemae You are sweet Maggiemae and I sure feel for you in this instance. It only takes one to ruin something. This was over the top as far as I am concerned. No excuse at all. I am glad it did not get any worse than it did.
What an awful incident. It is so sad when people take to violence (whether verbal or physical). You are best to stay away from such people. There is a world out there waiting to be photographed.
Oh my goodness that is simply dreadful... what on earth makes people get so irrational. After all you were asked to take photos by a committee person. Hope John is okay .. you must be pretty shaken up by the whole incident. Can't understand the mentality. If you don't want your picture taken then say so ... it doesn't have to turn violent. I am sure you would have accepted that.and could have deleted her pic if she was so against it. I wouldn't have believed such a thing could happen in a town in NZ and such language. So sorry maggiemae. I always enjoy your pics, so hope it hasn't put you off taking photos ... there is as someone said always one bad apple... and I think that woman needs to get some help with her behavioural issues. Disgusting.
I really don't know what to say - everyone has articulated my thoughts very well all ready. I'm glad that you are John are safe and out of there - that's the most important. I wish there was something profound I could say to make the whole cruel, unfair and frustrating situation disappear from your memory but I can't - I can remind you of all the friends and supporters you have here who are deeply concerned and thankful for your well being - but they already did.
In the words of the immortal Simon Gault (Masterchef Judge) "Love your work".
@doblaine Thanks a million, David! I do admit I'm feeling so much more confident with everybody's support. I started the day shaking and now I'm smiling - and appreciate your words!
Violent Line Dancing! Good grief, there is always at least one idiot - I met mine in Henley. Keep your chin up girl, at the end of the day, it's people like these that lose out.
What a foul woman & the whole thing must have shaken you up really badly, so sorry Maggiemae. They should have been thrown out & banned for life, it doesn't reflect well on the line dancing club that they could let these people bully an old man & a lovely lady like you!
Steer clear of there in future & keep on taking lovely photos for us! Shame, I love a bit of line dancing music & they have let these usually happy group of folks down.
Goodness , what a horrible experience for you both - you did the right thing by asking in the first place - there is just no pleasing some people...hope you can put it behind you!!
OMG......That is just terrible, you poor things no wonder you are so shaken up, What malicious & outrageous behaviour.....Sending big virtual hugs from the UK....You are clearly a lovely person with the best of intentions and this was so totaly out of order!...
It sounds like you did all you could on both occasions to keep on the right side of everyone Maggiemae, there are idiots everywhere who like to show how they can flex their muscles, those must be really tough guys knocking down an 80 year old, I bet they feel so good about themselves! Hope you are all ok. Please don't put your camera away, take care :)
Oh Maggiemae, I am so very sorry! What rude and arrogant people! I love line dancing and used to teach it. Our gang was not like this! It's the groups like you encountered that actually shut our precious dance clubs down with their abusive behavior. That is such a shame! We still dance at the Elk Lodge once in a while. You are welcome there anytime! And, you can bring your camera, too! =)
I can't believe your story!!!! Uncivilized enough to swear at you, but to get her buddies to put a gentleman on the floor.......I am so sorry that your evening was ruined and in such an awful way. People like that need to be marked out and then avoided!!!
Please, please don't think of your camera as the enemy...it's not. You are wonderful as I am sure your husband is, and your photographs are stunning....so find a new place to dance and take your camera like @marlboromaam suggests!!!!! @sarasdadandmom has it right too.
I hope that this experience doesn't stop you wanting to take photos. There are stupid, irrational people everywhere but thankfully they are in the minority. Glad that nobody was hurt. I actually have a copy of photographers rights (applicable to AUS) that I carry when I go out shooting, gives me confidence that I am inthe right.
YIKES!!! I was computerless this night and missed this. I am so sorry someone gave you a bad time. Karma is a powerful thing and will come back to bite them in the hinny..
@cheribug Thanks for commenting, Cheryl! Strangely enough I came across a saying the other day about Karma "How people treat you is their Karma..... How you react, is yours" Thought rather good!
I have behind in photos. We are in the process of selling our condo so we can move closer to my husband's work. All quite overwhelming and 365 had to take a back seat. I'm trying to imagine someone behaving so poorly. It is shocking. And yes, I could maybe loan you my friends as they are all terribly good sports about letting me practice portrait shots on them. Hope John has fully recovered!
I am so sorry to read this.I'm glad you are both ok and hope you find a much more civil group to socialize with. Thank God a picture can't capture what's in their evil little hearts.
Oh, my GOSH! That is so insane!! I'm so sorry that happened to you guys! It's especially nuts because she didn't say anything before about it; she was WAY out of line. I'm surprised that the police came after YOU guys; THEY started the fight! And over pictures; shame on them!
@2thgirl Thanks for your sympathetic remarks, Robyn! We could press charges for assault but don't think that would fix anything! These sort of people never learn!
Heavenly days, Maggie. . .I missed this the other day. . .I can't believe that this happened to the two of you. Thank heaven everything is all right. AND it's a good shot!
@lyno He was just an odd character that came in! Thanks for your comments, Lyn - everything is not all right but I'm leaving the group and also waiting for; "what goes around, comes around"
I'm catching up with projects so am late to this story. This is a sad tale of ridiculousness. Silly woman! A shame in small town too. Pressing charges could cause her to think twice about the way she communicates in the future. Poor you and John. I hope he is feeling better. Your photos are gorgeous, don't let this discourage you.
@carolinedreams Thanks Caroline for your good wishes. Don't want to press charges because all the witnesses would be part of the Dance Group and I don't want to affect them. People have told me that these sort of people don't change - they just get madder if punished. What goes around, comes around!
Oh my gosh, that is terrible... Just catching up too and am seriously shocked and livid on your behalf. I would pres charges against her and also write a long letter to that idiot manager's manager. Instead of coming in to diffuse the situation and help you he gangs up on you with the rest of the bastards. I wouldn't let this go, and I wasn't even there to see your man humiliated and hurt like that.
@frida I think you have found my most sensitive spot, Frida - seeing my man on his knees where he had been shoved then pushed violently down to the floor! That scene won't depart from my mind! Thanks for your words - it all helps!
So sorry that happened to you and John. I do hope that he is okay. It makes no sense that they asked you to leave, they should have had the people that pushed John down arrested. Here is my take on it - that woman may be in the "wit-less" protection program.
It is so sad how angry a society our world has become. It seems to be universal. Karma or whatever spin you put on it (Revenge is mine, so sayeth the Lord) will take care of people like this. I am so glad you both were not physically harmed, but I know your heart hurts at the injustice of it all. Time to choose a group with similar hearts (good) and move on. I agree that making any charges would just aggravate the situation, especially in a small town. I say " KILL EM with kindness" As far as the photography, I have been stepped on a couple of times for taking photos. I think those of us that love photography have. It upset me at the time, but never discouraged me. I know you love it, don't let anyone discourage your craft!! We love your photos Maggiemae!! Keep em coming!!
@rmkgreene You are so thoughtful, Ruth with your words! Thank you for taking the time! It is helpful to know that other photographers have had difficulty but overcame the bad side of it!
Kickboxing combines the standard techniques of boxing with basic kicks. maybe you should just try Yoga :)
In the words of the immortal Simon Gault (Masterchef Judge) "Love your work".
Steer clear of there in future & keep on taking lovely photos for us! Shame, I love a bit of line dancing music & they have let these usually happy group of folks down.
Please, please don't think of your camera as the enemy...it's not. You are wonderful as I am sure your husband is, and your photographs are stunning....so find a new place to dance and take your camera like @marlboromaam suggests!!!!! @sarasdadandmom has it right too.