Gulls are rather like starlings as they squabble and make such a noise. These 2 certainly look as though they've fallen out. The white blobs in the background are swans and if I had the time and inclination, I might have cloned them out but a lot of people will know, that I don't really do editing. I'm having problems uploading RAW files from my camera to Elements 11 with my favourite laptop although I can do this with the crappy one! I must try to have a look at what programs I have installed on the crappy laptop as I thought I had the same on both. I know that it's something to do with Nikon NEF files and I have downloaded the DNG converter but I'm at a loss as to what to do. I would like to be able to process some RAW files if I could sort it out. Unfortunately, I have installed Color Munki on my other laptop which makes everything look brown for some reason. I thought calibrating the screen would help everything but I don't like using it now as I'm not sure what the real colour is and also this laptop is so much nicer to use anyway and quicker (even though it was about half the price of the demon one).