I feel like I've outgrown my Rebel xsi (love it, just hit its limitations). Definitely want to stick with Canon and these are the two I'm looking at right now. Thoughts?
Well I too had the same dilemma and I went with the 60d. Sure the specs are higher on the 7, but i would say you need to take into consideration what you want to shoot (frames per second for example), and importantly for me budget. Personally when I looked at the techie differences I couldn't justify the 7, and at the same time I was thinking that the money saved could be better invested in lenses and/or other toys (filters, remote switches etc). Bottom line - I reckon you'll be delighted with either.
I have a 7D and I love it!! I used a 18-135 (kit lens) for a while it's a great lens along with 50mm 1.8...fantastic results. I just purchased my first L glass...70-200mm f/2.8 is II usm, that made all the difference. The 7D is really great...you won't regret it.
I have recently been trying to make exactly the same decision. My project so far has been shot on a bridge camera but i felt the time had come...... After much deliberation, review reading, mind changing etc etc I eventually ordered the 7d. There were a few things that swung it for me but the main one was the frame rate. and the main thing I feel I am going to miss out on is the articulated screen of the 60d (I use the one on my current camera all the time)
I ordered the body only plus 3 lenses. All of the peripherals ( lenses, filters, flash etc) arrived on Saturday and the body should arrive today ...... It's been a frustrating weekend! Good luck with your decision, I hope for your sake you are less dithery than I was!
There are two reasons I could think of for choosing the 60D
- you're building your kit for travel and want to minimise the weight of EVERYTHING. The 60D will feel like your old camera, the 7D feels a lot more rugged and the business. Its magnesium alloy so built for wear but at the same time, you pay for it in weight
- if you wanted to shoot at weird angles. If for example you're behind a crowd and want to stick your camera up over everyone else to shoot - then you can pop out the articulated screen and turn it down so you can see where you're aiming.
@agima@sam_cr@stuey@sjodell@orangecrush@kamb@toast@jantan Here is what I would be using it for, if that makes any difference- mainly family shoots, babies, kids, some maternity- that kind of thing. Definitely want something that can handle action well (focusing, etc). Would POSSIBLY use it for weddings. I've shot one and didn't really care for it, but I don't want to shut that down prematurely. Basically, I want something that is going to help me bump up the level of what I already do. Would that influence your decision any? And, stupid sounding question, I'm sure, but would I get better performance out of my lenses on a more powerful camera body? I want to make sure I invest my money the best way I can.
What lens do you currently have? If you dont have a good one, it may be worth going the 60D and getting a decent lens with it and then think about upgrading the body later.
The staple lens of many wedding photographers is the 24-70L but you could probably get away with using the 50mm (1.8 or 1.4 - your call) for a while - just use sneaker zoom
Not really alot of difference in the 2. 7d is larger, dual processors, 19 point focus system, 8 fps vs 5. I really like the flipout screen on the 60d. I have the 7d and really like it but if i had the 60d i would probably say the same thing! Good luck in your decision.
1 feature the 60d doesn't have is micro lens adjustment. This can come in handy if you need to tweak your lens for front or back focus issues.
i have a 7D and love it, i had the 550D before which i also love but upgraded mainly for the 8fps as i love shooting animals, planes and stuff so it gives you a better chance of getting that 'right' shot. I also like the 19 point focus system and the micro lens adjustment, it also 'feels' like a professional camera if that makes any sense at all, and not that i use it but the HD Video is supposed to be very very good.
I think the 7d body is now under £800 so its getting better value..
@istacy1011 Stacy, quality lenses will give more bang for the buck than the body will. For what you want to shoot, I think your biggest improvement will be with a fast, high quality L series lens. The 24-70 f/2.8L comes to mind, as does the 50mm f/1.4L (or f/1.2L).
There's a huge difference in price between the 60D and the 7D. In fact, when you look at that gap, the price difference between the 7D and the significantly marked down 5D MII is now only $300! (I say "only" because it's trivial compared to the difference between the 60D and 7D.)
I don't know if you'll notice much difference in the images between the 60D and 7D, but there is definitely a difference when you move up to full frame. (Of course, if you have a bunch of crop lenses that simply don't work on full frame cameras, that point is moot.)
So, best advice from me is 1) determine the lens set you want for your portrait photography. This is the one area you don't want to settle for less. 2) Determine from there what your budget is for a body. 3) Based on your remaining budget, my order of preference would be 5D MII, 7D, 60D in that order. The key, though, is the lenses.
I'm not sure where you're located, but consider renting any of the combinations you're considering first. It's a great way to be sure you like the combination before spending significant cash on upgrades that don't end up giving you what you expected.
@istacy1011 Thanks for posting this Stacy, I'm in the same boat with my Rebel xs. My husband was talking to a guy in a camera shop and he was advised to stick with that body and invest in lenses instead. I'm still not sold on that idea as I feel I've hit the limitations of this camera too. Good luck with whatever you decide to do - I'll be watching this thread closely!
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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/37810850
http://dancarrphotography.com/blog/2010/08/27/canon-60d-vs-7d/
I ordered the body only plus 3 lenses. All of the peripherals ( lenses, filters, flash etc) arrived on Saturday and the body should arrive today ...... It's been a frustrating weekend! Good luck with your decision, I hope for your sake you are less dithery than I was!
- you're building your kit for travel and want to minimise the weight of EVERYTHING. The 60D will feel like your old camera, the 7D feels a lot more rugged and the business. Its magnesium alloy so built for wear but at the same time, you pay for it in weight
- if you wanted to shoot at weird angles. If for example you're behind a crowd and want to stick your camera up over everyone else to shoot - then you can pop out the articulated screen and turn it down so you can see where you're aiming.
The staple lens of many wedding photographers is the 24-70L but you could probably get away with using the 50mm (1.8 or 1.4 - your call) for a while - just use sneaker zoom
But the 7D wasn't an option for me price wise, so the choice was easy.
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Not really alot of difference in the 2. 7d is larger, dual processors, 19 point focus system, 8 fps vs 5. I really like the flipout screen on the 60d. I have the 7d and really like it but if i had the 60d i would probably say the same thing! Good luck in your decision.
1 feature the 60d doesn't have is micro lens adjustment. This can come in handy if you need to tweak your lens for front or back focus issues.
I think the 7d body is now under £800 so its getting better value..
There's a huge difference in price between the 60D and the 7D. In fact, when you look at that gap, the price difference between the 7D and the significantly marked down 5D MII is now only $300! (I say "only" because it's trivial compared to the difference between the 60D and 7D.)
I don't know if you'll notice much difference in the images between the 60D and 7D, but there is definitely a difference when you move up to full frame. (Of course, if you have a bunch of crop lenses that simply don't work on full frame cameras, that point is moot.)
So, best advice from me is 1) determine the lens set you want for your portrait photography. This is the one area you don't want to settle for less. 2) Determine from there what your budget is for a body. 3) Based on your remaining budget, my order of preference would be 5D MII, 7D, 60D in that order. The key, though, is the lenses.
I'm not sure where you're located, but consider renting any of the combinations you're considering first. It's a great way to be sure you like the combination before spending significant cash on upgrades that don't end up giving you what you expected.
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