I'm very surprised to find that colors appear sooo different in 365 and Facebook!!! I knew there might be slight difference, but this is just so obvious in today's picture of mine. Here on the 365 colors look so much more desaturated!
Can you also see the difference?
@velina Hi Velina and thanks for eliminating my self diagnosed insanity...my images have been doing exactly the same and I have not changed anything in how I save and edit.
Yes I see the same, my photos looked much desaturated after uploading here, so now i increase the vibrancy and saturation before uploading. Do you convert your pictures in sRGB format? then you shouldn't face this much difference.
I certainly can see the difference Velina, the colours in Facebook look much more vibrant. What do they look like on you computer programme? I have a different catalogue on my computer to my editing in Photoshop and the colours always look different. @velina
@wind_of_the_sothern_sea Thanks for sharing it, Arefin! Yes, all my pictures are in sRGB, but maybe I'll try to increase vibrancy, too! It's so strange I notice this just now!
@elaine55 Thanks, Elaine! The "real"colors of the picture after post-process in Photoshop look exactly like in Facebook - more vibrant. I guess it's something with the 365 then ...
@velina all I have found after some experimenting if you increase the vibrancy to 30 and saturation to 15 or 20, the colors will look in 365 almost same as the real one, hope that helps :)
Basically look at your file size that you upload before and after uploading. Huge difference in size. The way they get your file so small is by compressing your image and throwing out color information and combining colors. Sometimes this will lead to washed out colors or can create a color cast on certain colors. 365 and facebook use 2 different algorithms. facebook is always closer to my original but oddly enough their file sizes are usually even smaller then 365 lol. Yes saving your files in SRGB can help but it still will happen. And it really depends on the photo. I cant tell much difference in landscape shots but people skin tones almost always look different. (and yes i only work in SRGB color space)
I can't see the specific example because FB is blocked for me at work, the cretins. I mean really what do they expect me to do all day.
I have noticed though that my pictures look different at home than they do at work. Everything seems a little darker at work. I think it's an issue with my monitor. I looked up something about calibrating it online but lost interest pretty quickly. Eventually I'll have to get a new monitor anyway and then the problem should solve itself.
I was once told that it had something to do with the size as well...since finding that out I always upload a smaller size to 365 and Facebook and the original size to Flickr, for example. I don't see any major difference between my 365 photo and my Facebook photo and my guess is that it's due to the lack of compression, like @soia said.
This seems to happen to different people from time to time... there was a discussion a while back... I think Alexis was the one who explained it and helped some people??? @abirkill
Yes, it was @abirkill who saved my sanity! (I thought I was seeing things!). It has to do with your color profile and that 365 does not transfer all of the information...or something like that. Not sure how it works technically. But, all you need to know is that your photos should be in sRGB mode to maintain the color you desire. The way to achieve that is in photoshop. Go to image ---> convert color profile ----> sRGB.
Hope that helps. I'm sure Alexis will be around shortly to translate my poor explanation! ;-)
Thanks for bringing this up, I've had the same problem. I haven't noticed it with facebook but I definitely do on here. Now I know that it's not just me!!!
I don't want to doubt you, but compression and file size does *not* affect colours in this way. It can affect 'fringes' of colour, but not solid blocks like you have in your image (unless the compression is turned up so high that the image is basically unrecognisable).
If that site shows that the source image is in sRGB then obviously there is something strange happening, but it should be fixable. While this site can introduce sharpening and compression artefacts, the colours of my images *always* match those on Facebook and other sites. This 'desaturation' is absolutely typical of a colour space issue.
@abirkill Thanks! Now I feel like a fool :)
It says"WARNING: Embedded color profile: “AdobeRGB”
Some popular web browsers ignore embedded color profiles, meaning users of those browsers see the wrong colors for this image."Images for the web are most widly viewable when in the sRGB color space and with an embedded color profile."
@velina No worries, colour space stuff is extremely complicated and so easy to get wrong!
Can you give a quick description of your workflow (editing software and how you export the file for upload), and I should be able to tell you how to do the conversion.
@abirkill I open the RAW file in Adobe Photoshop and make some changes, then I save it as JPEG, choosing size about 2 to 5 mb, cause I keep the raw file most of the time.
@velina Two options then. Assuming you are opening the RAW file in the Adobe Camera RAW plugin, you can change the colour space there -- look for the underlined text at the bottom of the Adobe Camera RAW window that says Adobe RGB, click on it, and you can change it to sRGB.
Alternatively, you can convert the image before saving it in Photoshop. This can be done either by using the method in the link you found, or if you use the Save for Web function, you can check the 'convert to sRGB' checkbox and the 'embed color profile' checkbox, which will then cause the Save to Web output to always be in sRGB, regardless of your source colour space.
@abirkill Thanks a lot!
I understand. I think the first method - changing it in the plugin is the easiest one! I guess if I need it to be in Adobe RGB, I can always open the Raw file and change it back :)
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@wind_of_the_sothern_sea Thanks for sharing it, Arefin! Yes, all my pictures are in sRGB, but maybe I'll try to increase vibrancy, too! It's so strange I notice this just now!
I have noticed though that my pictures look different at home than they do at work. Everything seems a little darker at work. I think it's an issue with my monitor. I looked up something about calibrating it online but lost interest pretty quickly. Eventually I'll have to get a new monitor anyway and then the problem should solve itself.
Hope that helps. I'm sure Alexis will be around shortly to translate my poor explanation! ;-)
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I don't want to doubt you, but compression and file size does *not* affect colours in this way. It can affect 'fringes' of colour, but not solid blocks like you have in your image (unless the compression is turned up so high that the image is basically unrecognisable).
If that site shows that the source image is in sRGB then obviously there is something strange happening, but it should be fixable. While this site can introduce sharpening and compression artefacts, the colours of my images *always* match those on Facebook and other sites. This 'desaturation' is absolutely typical of a colour space issue.
It says"WARNING: Embedded color profile: “AdobeRGB”
Some popular web browsers ignore embedded color profiles, meaning users of those browsers see the wrong colors for this image."Images for the web are most widly viewable when in the sRGB color space and with an embedded color profile."
How do I convert an Adobe RGB into sRGB?
Can you give a quick description of your workflow (editing software and how you export the file for upload), and I should be able to tell you how to do the conversion.
http://om4.com.au/client/preparing-images-color-profiles-srgb-adobe-rgb/
Alternatively, you can convert the image before saving it in Photoshop. This can be done either by using the method in the link you found, or if you use the Save for Web function, you can check the 'convert to sRGB' checkbox and the 'embed color profile' checkbox, which will then cause the Save to Web output to always be in sRGB, regardless of your source colour space.
I understand. I think the first method - changing it in the plugin is the easiest one! I guess if I need it to be in Adobe RGB, I can always open the Raw file and change it back :)