analog light meter  by kali66

analog light meter

this was my mother's, back in the day... I dug it out to try it in advance of receiving the camera Victoria... in case i want to take it off auto... I think i get the gist of how it is supposed to work but it is not agreeing with my digital camera, that could be the metering mode i used, does anyone have any advice on how to use this? eg. what is the DIN number ? and the EV ?
October 19th, 2016  
Haven't seen one of those for a while - more my fathers thing than mine but check this out, it may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hd-zdgjeDE
October 19th, 2016  
I do remember them very well, I own one (still a little more complex). DIN was just another scale for film speed (alternative to ASA, which is the same as ISO). So you just select the ASA Value to match the film ISO speed (in your photo it's set to 100) and disregard DINs
October 19th, 2016  
if you send me photos of the other sides via email I'll give you some hints also to calibrate it
October 19th, 2016  
EV would be "Exposure Value" - an absolute measure of the combination of the three exposure parameters, in terms of the classic idea of "stops" ISO 100, 1 second f/1 is the zero base, 0 EV. Bright sun requires somewhere about 15 EV, and that is sort of how the "Sunny Sixteen" Rule works. Here's Ken Rockwell's essay. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/ev.htm
October 19th, 2016  
Whew, some answers. Michael has a Weston light meter and we spent time discussing its use. It's so long since he used it, we are pretty rusty. It used to drive me and the kids mad in the days when he spent so much time getting his light meter readings we were all tetchy and smiles were in short supply for the Family AlBUM
October 19th, 2016  
@ethelperry hahaha iam getting the feeling it would make me tetchy too!
October 19th, 2016  
@domenicododaro there really is only one side with this dial and numbers domenico
do you need a clearer picture of all the numbers?
October 19th, 2016  
@frankhymus thanks Frank, i now understand ev in principle, as the needles come together its telling me the ev, and all the combinations of f-stop and shutter speed that are equivalent, pretty cool. how do i know if it is calibrated correctly? as i said its not telling me the same as my camera does ....could that be the exposure meter... evaluative, spot etc.
on the back it has a zero adjust screw... @domenicododaro
October 19th, 2016  
@graemestevens thanks, tells me some more, but this one is a less sophisticated model! there is a red pointer that moves which i presume is reading the light, and a green one that moves with the shutter speed dial, i am presuming when i turn the green one to match the red one it is telling me the ev and the different combinations. @domenicododaro @frankhymus i am presuming it doesnt need a battery!
October 19th, 2016  
that a lot of presuming lol
October 19th, 2016  
@ltodd amazing someone has digitised that, isnt the internet wonderful! thanks Lynn
October 19th, 2016  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCbePKkivZ8 this guy is cool at explaing the sunny 16 rule
October 19th, 2016  
oh now I think the actual model is L86 - http://www.urmonas.net/manuals/sekonic-L86/sekonic-L86.html
October 19th, 2016  
@ltodd yes, very helpful :)
October 19th, 2016  
oh and due to age, the selenium cell may be off & need drastic recalibration - http://blog.sekonic.com/2010/08/17/vintage-light-meters/
October 19th, 2016  
How far different are they? The digital camera (in normal or matrix or average or evaluative mode depending on your camera manufacturer, there are others, center and spot being the other two common ones) evaluates the whole scene in the frame and averages out all the light and assumes this should be the so-called gray card value. This might be right or wrong depending on the scene, high proportion of white, (snow, sand, bright sky) and the camera will "underexpose" (making the mass of white come out mid-gray) with lots of dark and black, the camera will "overexpose" again judging the blacks to come out sort of gray. Many more advanced modern cameras, too, try to get even smarter with a database of scene recognition parameters and further adjust the "metered" exposure. The simple light meter will try to do the evaluation about mid-gray, depending on where you point it, and is it getting a wide or spot view. So yes, try to match them up and try again to see if they agree or not. Have fun...
October 19th, 2016  
@frankhymus so many variables O_0, having just read in the manual how to take a reading i will try it out tomorrow with evaluative meter mode on my dslr and get back to you..
thanks Lynn, definitely something to consider! @ltodd
October 19th, 2016  
Good luck with your endeavor it will be worth it in the end ;-)
October 19th, 2016  
too much fun, Rule number one : Do Not Throw At Model , gooey luck on your adventure!
October 19th, 2016  
Ahh...scary technical stuff. My dad has one of these in the back of a cupboard somewhere but whilst I remember him using it, I was spared the instruction on how to do so myself. Good luck in your venture.
October 19th, 2016  
Apparently you got plenty of answers, I think @ltodd gave you all you need! To calibrate, just try pointing it on a flat even surface possibly mid grey with different lighting conditions and compare the aperture/shutter speed combinations with the ones metered with your camera pointing TTL on the same surface and lighting conditions. Then you'll have a "circa" idea of the aging of the selenium cells...
October 19th, 2016  
Too late to take the technicalities in, but I'm intrigued it's your mother's, what did she photograph, was she as experimental as you? my dad in his seventies now, had a analog camera and he made lots of slides (I still remember watching them together with family and the stories would flow). He never developed film himself, but his sister did and I wish I had asked her to show me how, but she passed away several years. Funny enough she never took the photographs, just developed them for her husband.
October 19th, 2016  
I found a similar one in my husband's things But I couldn't figure it out
October 19th, 2016  
Very cool light meter, love the dialog
October 20th, 2016  
Have fun with this marvelous treasure. I still have my analog spot meter and use her when I pull out my 8x10 field.
October 20th, 2016  
very cool - have fun, I never use mine now- I downloaded an app but really I should use .
October 20th, 2016  
old school
October 20th, 2016  
@ingrid2101 if i had a cellphone that would be simpler!
October 20th, 2016  
@bokehdot very :)
October 20th, 2016  
@overalvandaan my mum had this from the age of about 19 when she headed to Australia for her OE around 1960, she just used to take holiday and family snaps. my dad used to take slides of us and yes i remember very light hearted evenings showing them, he has digitised many in recent years . Maybe developing is like cooking .
October 20th, 2016  
@domenicododaro i will, thankyou
October 20th, 2016  
You mom had some serious skills!
October 20th, 2016  
Ah - never thought of that - my assumption that everyone has one, sorry ! Are you doing your own developing ?
October 20th, 2016  
@ingrid2101 not at this stage, Spanner has offered to do some for me, and brett has said i could get some done in wellington at the same time as his, I did a little bit of develpping at school but i cant remember if i had any good results! maybe i will get the bug//..
October 21st, 2016  
Gosh, this is going way back. I can see you have photography in your genes.
October 21st, 2016  
@chris667 here 'tis
January 10th, 2017  
@kali66 Ah, a selenium cell. Good in that they don't need batteries, but bad in that they degrade when the cells get exposed to air.

You can't really fix those without spending more than they're worth.

Still, it's a nice bit of family history!
January 10th, 2017  
@chris667 i shot my first roll using it and it seems to be ok, with the asa doubled.
January 10th, 2017  
@kali66 I hope I'm not coming across as critical. If you can still use it, then good. But it will degrade further, and eventually the needle won't go all the way across the scale.

Still, enjoy it while you can. It's nice.
January 10th, 2017  
January 11th, 2017  
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