My Father-in-Law's parents except that this father he is named for, died really young and my father-in-law was "The man of the house" until just before he moved out as a young man when his Mother (This Effie) married and gave him a step-father
@olivetreeann oops, no sorry, this Harvey, is Greg's Grandpa, both Greg's Dad and brother are also Harvey but not Juniors, they all have their own middle names. So it was Greg's Dad who lost his father when he was young. And after retaking it out with them, I was wrong, the step father came just before Harv moved out on his own, so he had really been the "man of the house" for years
