DSLRs are a dying breed – 3rd Gen Cameras are the Future

January 6th, 2012
http://www.stuckincustoms.com/2012/01/04/dslrs-are-a-dying-breed-3rd-gen-cameras-are-the-future/

Anyone using one of these new generation cameras? What are your thoughts?
January 6th, 2012
Meh. They always say the next big thing is going to kill the last thing. We'll see.
January 6th, 2012
That's what I have, I believe. It's a Panasonic Lumix FZ35. http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-FZ35-Digital-Optical-Stabilized/dp/B002IKLJU0 I LOVE it! Sometimes I get camera envy. but I never did enjoy changes lenses while out on nature shoots. I used to use a 35mm all manually, I can do anything with this canera that I could do with that one. It's lightweight and I can go all manual or anywhere in between. The Leica lens is amazing! Plus when I bought it, it was $329, so the price was right. Oh and the freaking battery lasts for about 400 photos, even with my constant changing of setting and having to preview the photo to make sure that I got what I wanted.
January 6th, 2012
I read that a few days ago.

I, too, have neglected my dSLR this week - but in favour of my film SLR, not a fancy new "3rd Gen" camera!
January 6th, 2012
@manek43509 Same!! If anything, I ignore mine for film. What SLR do you have?
January 7th, 2012
@beautifulthing
It's a Pentax K1000. It used to be my Dad's, but I just started using it recently.

I got my first roll of film developed, and prints back today; that was oddly nostalgic of my early childhood, but also very exciting!

Dad said he used to have more lenses with it, but there's only one 50mm now. I think my brother may have the others (or some of them, at least) though, so I might go down to his and have a go at using them, at some point...

I've actually arranged a day of "vintage camera geekery" with a friend of mine, tomorrow. He's also got some old Pentax SLRs, and others as well - plus, he's talking of turning his shed into a little darkroom. Should be a good day! haha
January 7th, 2012
Cam
I saw that post via someone on Google+ and thought it was interesting. My main question was, how do they define a 3rd gen camera? Is it just a camera with interchangeable lenses but not a DLSR? Or would any 'prosumer' type camera qualify?

Personally I think the mass market digital camera is being made redundant by cellphones, so manufacturers are hoping to make 'prosumer' the new mass market. The new cameras will have to make top creative flexibility accessible to non-pro users, at a non-pro price.
January 7th, 2012
@manek43509 Excellent! I have a Pentax MX with a 28-55mm lens on it and I like it quite a lot. I have another couple of vintage cams too, and was going to take them out for a lark tomorrow. We'll have to see what we both come up with! ;)
January 7th, 2012
I have heard a lot of good things about these new cameras.
January 7th, 2012
@beautifulthing
I've got a tiny little Konica C35 - another of my Dad's old film cameras. I've never used it, so far, though... Maybe I should try it?
January 7th, 2012
@manek43509 Hell yeah - give them all a spin! Those light film ones are nice. My favorite film camera is a Mamiya Sekor - but it weighs over two pounds. They built them like TANKS back then. Once I was wearing it around my neck, and when I went to take it off, I absolutely bonked myself. Had a huge goose egg on my head for two days! :)
January 7th, 2012
@dmortega Well, I think it is going to be many years before the DLSR goes out the window. I have done a lot of research before deciding to go the DSLR route. Most of the reviews have issues with the photo quality and many don't like the fact that there usually isn't an optical viewfinder. The thing I struggled with when I played with some is that if they do have a viewfinder it is a digital live view that has to render so the subject is delayed slightly. So, for kids or sports or action, it makes it difficult to get the shot right. I also like having the heft of a DSLR in my hand, I feel more stable with it. The micros just feel slightly awkward for me.

If you are not picky about all that type of stuff, they are always worth playing around with. The other thing is that most of them have adaptors available to fit any lens maker for about $40 USD, which means a full reinvestment in lens brand is not an immediate requirement.
January 7th, 2012
I'll be curious to see where this goes many years down the line.
January 7th, 2012
Ultimately the pictures shown were HDR were obviously done with post processing...didn't look too real, other the sunset boat one which said it wa taken with dslr anyway.
January 7th, 2012
@beautifulthing
Owww! (I've hit myself in the face with a drumstick on a few occasions.)

I'll try the Konica soon, then. I think I need to buy some more film first, though!
January 7th, 2012
Love my first, second, and third generation!
January 7th, 2012
I will be sticking with my dslr for awhile... but I have to admit, I am interested in picking up a lil point and shoot that shoots in RAW. :-)
January 7th, 2012
@ukcam I think part of it is that it has the viewfinder/eye piece and it shows what you'd see using a DSLR, even though it is actually a screen, and it has to have high zoom and also be able to take good macros. That's what I got from my quick read of the article
January 7th, 2012
They'll have to prise my dSLR from my cold, dead hands.
January 7th, 2012
@annehans I think one of the points is that it's NOT a P&S, You can use them that way, the same as you can with a DSLR, but you can do everything that a DSLR can do as well.
January 7th, 2012
Okay so i read the article and im still a bit confused... what are these 3rd gen cameras??!
like are they just a small camera with no replacable lens or what?? what is so great about them? are they expensive? are they out yet? someone please help a curious mind :)
January 7th, 2012
@jools enough said :D

also, trey ratcliffe is hardly an authority on photographic zeitgeists. Still he's cooked up a decent amount of attention from taking this stance. I think a more apt title for the blog is

"I will no longer use DSLRs for my HDR, instead i will use mirrorless ILC, who's with me?"
January 7th, 2012
@shyanewiegers Third gen cameras are like the Sony NEX-3 or the Nikon 1. They usually have interchangeable lenses. If you go onto Amazon.com or other retail site and search for "interchangeable lens camera" or "Micro Four Thirds Camera" you will see some of the examples.
January 8th, 2012
@dmortega i have been using an olympus micro 4/3 the last few weeks and love it. can't compare it to a dslr since i don't own, but most reviewers feel the image quality on these will equal or even surpass an entry level dslr until you get into higher iso settings. for me it was more the size issue, smaller camera...smaller lenses. they may not replace the dslr, but they are a viable alternative.
January 8th, 2012
Thanks everyone for your input. I have gone back and forth on the issue of full dslr and and easy to carry point-and-shoot for a while now. I hate carrying anything. A purse is a necessary evil, in my book. Carrying anything else is just more stuff to carry. I've held back because of the extras for a dslr. I would have them, no doubt. I've had a 35mm and needed to carry stuff for it, too. I wouldn't mind having all the extras if I were able to put them to use but the truth of the matter is I don't like carrying more stuff. I want to put it in my pocket but I want to zoom out to the planets. It's always a trade off. I keep coming back to the same example; no matter which grocery store I go to, it never has everything I need. Never. So, it is with cameras.

@chard --- I love the clarity you are getting on your recent pictures. They seem to have a look of their own. How's the zoom on it? Maybe a different lens?
January 8th, 2012
I'm not convinced.

One section of that article essentially said that DSLR cameras will be replaced by cameras like the Leica M9. Ummm... that's a rangefinder camera. Those have been around a loooooong time.

Tech will constantly evolve - that's a given. And, at some point, all my lovely L lenses will be useless. But I am willing to bet that is a long, long way off. I'll keep buying them, thank you very much. :) Or I'll go and get a Hasselblad and ignore all these miniaturising devices. ;)
January 11th, 2012
@dmortega .Yes I have the new Sony Nex 5n with the 16 mm f/2.8 and 18-55 3/5 lens and the adapter to use my Canon Lenses, and I am really enjoying this camera. I tend to use it with the pancake lenses and really like the photos. One draw back is if you have the adapter to use Nikon or Canon lenses , autofocus will only work with the Sony lenses and the new Tamron 18-200. I really enjoy the articulating screen and the fact its easy to use it in strange position for photos.

The one disadvantage I see in using the Sony Nex 5n is the menu system not as user friendly as my Canon t1i (500d) or my Canon 60d. I plan on it being my travel cameras and will still use my larger dslr's for my photoshoots I do.

The Sony Nex 5n has the same size sensor as my Canon Dslr's do.

@shyanewiegers to answer your questions they are compact cameras with exchangable lenses with larger sensor aka mirrorless, ilc's or micro four thirds.

Here is a photo taken with the Sony Nex 5n:
January 11th, 2012
comparison of the camera sizes. you can see how different they are


January 11th, 2012
@ssgeogirl2012 --- Hmmm ... I like the size, for sure. Now how can you get a picture of the moon? How's the zoom? Macro?
January 11th, 2012
@dmortega ...you have to change the lens for zoom, I have the adapter so c van put on my canon 18-200mm set it on a tripod, set the time to bulb and use it exactly like a dslr, it looks a little awkward with this giant lens and a itty bitty camera, but it work just fine
January 11th, 2012
@ssgeogirl2012 --- I need a stronger zoom. ;-)
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