For any one in the UK who hasn't seen this, it's an interesting read about the Government's new proposals for copyright.
"Millions of amateurs who today post their images to Flickr and automatically receive the full protection of the law, would also lose, unless they opted-out."
I read this, I don't know if I am tired or something but I couldn't actually see what the implication is. If you upload to Flickr you lose copyright unless you untick the box?
I know there is some issue with Facebook, if you upload pictures on their they have the right to use them with out your permission.
@calx With Facebook, it's about giving your rights to Facebook (I think _ I don't use FB).
This, as I understand it, is more about what rights you will have to give and what rights are automatically applied to a piece of work.
It reads to me like an inversion of the current status, where you retain copyright by default and have to explicitly give it away, whereas the intention seems to be that a third party can assume no copyright unless you specifically say there is.
What the implications of that are I'm not sure.
I guess if Flickr or facebook use my images I'd be stoked.
but they won't my images are pretty shoddy, and whilst there are millions of photographers uploading who are better than me I'm not gonna worry.
regarding facebook, as i understand it, the default is to allow facebook to use your pics in advertising on your friends pages but you can opt out of that and deny them the option of using your pics - go to account settings, facebook ads and choose "no one" in both ads for third party and ads for friends.
@sunnygreenwood I learned that through experience when a photo of mine was being used by a third party to advertise a greeting card company - even though my photo was not available as a design on any of the cards. I thought it was bizarre but fixed my settings after that. I figured if they were going to use my image to generate revenue, I deserve at least a finders fee LOL
@bluefirebucket The Register are probably the biggest IT-related news site in the UK. Pretty sensible & level-headed in my experience. If they think this is something to keep an eye on, I tend to agree with them.
for the sake of clarity with respect to Facebook and your photos:
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If a photo is used, it is your profile photo and not from your photo albums
In particular, the last line says: If a photo is used, it is your profile photo and not from your photo albums
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I know there is some issue with Facebook, if you upload pictures on their they have the right to use them with out your permission.
It seems so complicated!
This, as I understand it, is more about what rights you will have to give and what rights are automatically applied to a piece of work.
It reads to me like an inversion of the current status, where you retain copyright by default and have to explicitly give it away, whereas the intention seems to be that a third party can assume no copyright unless you specifically say there is.
What the implications of that are I'm not sure.
but they won't my images are pretty shoddy, and whilst there are millions of photographers uploading who are better than me I'm not gonna worry.
... hmm doesn't seem to mention photos specifically :(
Facebook Ads
A Note About Your Photos
There's a false rumor circulating that Facebook is changing who owns your content and how it's used. You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook.
Please see our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities for more information.
Ads shown by third parties
Facebook does not give third party applications or ad networks the right to use your name or picture in ads. If we allow this in the future, the setting you choose will determine how your information is used.
You may see social context on third party sites, including in ads, through Facebook social plugins. Although social plugins enable you to have a social experience on a third party site, Facebook does not share your information with the third party sites hosting the social plugins. Learn more about social plugins.
Edit third party ad settings
Ads and friends
Everyone wants to know what their friends like. That's why we pair ads and friends—an easy way to find products and services you're interested in, based on what your friends share and like. Learn more about social ads.
Here are the facts:
Social ads show an advertiser's message alongside actions you have taken, such as liking a Page
Your privacy settings apply to social ads
We don't sell your information to advertisers
Only confirmed friends can see your actions alongside an ad
If a photo is used, it is your profile photo and not from your photo albums
In particular, the last line says: If a photo is used, it is your profile photo and not from your photo albums
For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.