SOOC

May 6th, 2011
Is it ok to tag your SOOC shots even if you've cropped them? I do, but feel a bit naughty doing it....
May 6th, 2011
Guess you can tag your photo anything you want as long as its yours!
May 6th, 2011
@nikkers I do tend to just randomly make up tags but I think the sooc is sort of 'special' and just wondered how seriously people felt about it....
May 6th, 2011
@iandec . Not to sound rude or mean... but it shouldnt matter what other people think. and therefore if you want to tag your photos Micky mouse you could do so.. :)
but seriously some people are pure at heart and would say that its not SOOC , and then others will disagree. Its subjective to you.. and like I mentioned as long as the photo is your own.. you can do what ever you want to it and tag/name it the same.
May 6th, 2011
@nikkers I take your reply as neither, only helpful - thanks!
May 6th, 2011
@iandec . :)
May 6th, 2011
@nikkers - I totally want to randomly tag a photo mickey mouse now. lol
May 6th, 2011
@mej2011 ..lol I used to sign my credit slips as mickey mouse when I lived in London.. NO one ever checked. and I did it for a whole year!!! lol
May 6th, 2011
@nikkers-That's awesome and yet scary.
May 6th, 2011
@mej2011 . very true! and just a reminder of why its so easy for people to steel others ID
May 6th, 2011
Whenever I have an "SOOC" photo, I'll point out that it's SOOC aside from cropping/straightening if I've done so, but only if it's a slight crop. I don't usually tag them with it mainly because I have the memory of a fish and always forget.
May 6th, 2011
Nod
@iandec Elibank, SOOC is still in camera processing tho. Some cameras let you choose types of films it mimics like low/high contrast B&W, Velvia, Provia, Astia, desaturated, standard, portraits, saturated vivid... all are in camera processing for certain styles. There is also white balance setting which can turn your photos from cold tone to warm tone if not done correctly. So don't quite get the SOOC thing!
May 6th, 2011
@viranod that, is a great point. My camera only does a fraction of the things you've mentioned (probably) but I have fiddled with a few settings, so I Itotally get your point...
May 6th, 2011
Cam
I agree with @viranod , the camera does some processing (although if you choose the settings before taking the picture rather than changing your mind later... it's subtly different)

The flickr group http://www.flickr.com/groups/sooc/ has a fairly strict definition.

Personally I think SOOC is a bit bogus as an artistic merit - because photography has always been about processing. Also a lot of creative work starts with a RAW file which by definition will need some processing to make a final image. I imagine SOOC came about as a reaction against the availability and over-use of digital processing techniques...
May 6th, 2011
I came up with my own acronym for cases like this : PMSOOC (=Pretty Much SOOC) :-) Watermarks, croppings, straightenings ... all of the things that would make you say "It's SOOC except for the slight ..." fit in the PMSOOC category. Feel free to use it :-)
May 6th, 2011
I would tag as SOOC if there had been no adjustment to levels etc. Cropping/straightening is all fine, in my book.

But, like @nikkers said, you can tag whatever you want.

I disagree with @viranod. SOOC stands for Straight Out Of the Camera.. right? So whatever your camera did to your photos.. and whatever you did to them in the camera using the features your camera has.. surely with no post-processing it is still straight outta there?

What you are saying is that no photos are non-processed.

Processing goes on in the camera.. after that you take your photo 'Straight Out Of the Camera' and post on here.. and you are saying that isn't SOOC?

:/
May 6th, 2011
most of mine are sooc, if i have to crop them i'll still mark it as sooc as its only additional zoom that i've not used at the time.
if i do anything more to it - which is rare then i wont mark them sooc
May 6th, 2011
Nod
@katiegc24
Yes you can call that too. And during films day, what you get from camera are rolls of films, no pic. They too need processing in a lab, whether professional or 1-hour.

Professional lab will give you professional quality prints while 1-hour lab will give you the 1-hour quality.
May 6th, 2011
I'm with Cam @ukcam and Nod @viranod on this one...

I've never understood the whole SOOC nonesense. It's a pseudo merit badge that supposedly indicates a better photographic technique because, in theory, you're "not letting software make decisions on the image". That is bogus in the digital realm, as all cameras make decisions between the sensor and the memory card that the photographer has limited control over. Don't believe it? Set any number of cameras to "factory setting", then dial in the exact same aperture, shutter speed and ISO and shoot the same scene at the same time with each of them. The results will vary greatly in terms of light, colour, saturation, white balance. Because of that, no serious professional photographer would ever publish an image "SOOC": at a minimum, he or she will adjust levels/curves and saturation to ensure that the image reflects reality (if going for photorealism).

Think of it this way: using "SOOC" as a source of pride in the digital world is like a film photographer taking pride in saying "processed at the local 1-hour photo lab" (instead of developing the film him/herself and controlling the final outcome through the chemicals used, developing time, etc -the "photoshop" of old-). Post-processing is part of the photographic workflow, and taking pride in skipping that step makes no sense to me...
May 6th, 2011
@iandec i say sooc just cropped thats it
May 6th, 2011
sooc is straight out of camera so as long as its a setting on the camera and not fixed afer its a sooc
May 6th, 2011
Nod
Let's just look at the spect of Olympus E-PL2:

Just a part of it...

Scene mode:
• Portrait
• e-Portrait
• Landscape
• Landscape + Portrait
• Sport
• Night Scene
• Night + Portrait
• Children
• High Key
• Low Key
• DIS mode
• Macro
• Nature Macro
• Candle
• Sunset
• Documents
• Panorama
• Fireworks
• Beach & Snow
• Fisheye Effect* (for use with lens converter)
• Wide Angle* (for use with lens converter)
• Macro* (for use with lens converter)

Art Filters:

• Pop art
• Soft focus
• Pale & Light Color
• Light Tone
• Grainy film
• Pin hole
• Diorama
• Cross Process
• Dramatic Tone*

White Balance:

• Auto
• Cloudy
• Shade
• Flash
• Daylight
• Fluorescent 1
• Fluorescent 2
• Fluorescent 3
• Lamp
• 1 custom preset
• Kelvin (2000 - 14000 K)

SOOC from this camera will probably give you hundreds of different outputs. Still SOOC, right?

PS - from http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympusepl2/page3.asp
May 6th, 2011
@janmaki loving your work - will be stealing that from now on... :)
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