@pamfromcalgary@kimmiesue thankyou - I feel like I want to sear them into my brain ....the hardest part seemed to be to resist the urge to pan. I have a cannon lens and beause the birds move in the frame so fast, had the most sucess in low light with cloudy white balance, AI focus, (not servo or one shot) evaluative metering, auo selection point autofocus and auto ISO to get maximum light. It was all but raining, and this shot was F4 1/250 on ISO 100 on Program mode. May not be what anyone else would use, or even correct though.