It is not like me to start a controversial conversation, but I am just not a fan of clicking on a notification that I was tagged in to find out that it only says "thanks".
In my opinion, it means more to me if you stop by my page age make a comment on one of my photos instead of saying "@onarom- Thanks" following a comment I made to one of your photos.
I am not trying to be mean. This is just my opinion. What is your opinion?
@onarom I know I am one of those "rude" people. I just don't spend as much time on 365 as I used to and I've created a horrible habit of posting my photos, saying my "thank you" in the comments but neglecting to see what others have posted. Sorry to all my followers and all those I follow, I know I have been doing a lousy job. I do sometimes check your photos but rarely do I leave a comment (this may be why I don't get as many comments as I used to either). It may be that my life has become more hectic since this year began, I usually do not get the chance to post my photo and view my comments until right before I go to bed.
There you go. You make a critical comment on someone's photo of their prize spaghetti plant, suggesting some pruning, encouraging their use of dof, and monochrome but all they can say is thanks. Well I would be up in arms too Dale, say no, and demand an explanation.
@gigiz this is the link to my favourite video on the subject of growing spaghetti. I expect with such a bountiful spring in the northern hemisphere they can be expecting a heavy crop this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMNO2Kcvz2k&sns=em
oh dear. i hadnt thought about that :-(. i thought saying thanks, even if just one word, was better than no acknowledgement. i will try and be more constructive....
@onarom I know what you mean - I don't need thanking, seeing a super shot is reward in itself. I include one heart-felt thank you on the next photo I post and try to return the favour of a comment for each one I get (not always same day, depends how much time I've got). @peterdegraaff Home-grown is definitely best, I find pig-manure works best, and lots of it. :)
@filsie65 We use a lot of horse manure, but it needs to be broken down a little by nature first. The local organic farmers collect it from us to use in their gardens. Occasionally they give us a box of vegetables as thanks, but more often than not they just collect it.
@jaynspain I was of the same mindset. If a person says "cool shot" should I reply asking for a definition of cool and whether the shot's colours needed a higher temperature? I guess my point is that there are times when thanks is warranted.
@onarom , Is this an april fools joke or are you really complaining because someone had the audacity to thank you for a comment you made?
I do believe we are all entitled to our own opinons but what you have just said is going to make some people, like me , feel bad about the times when they we reply with a thankyou. I try and reply with more but I dont always have the time or know what to say.
Also it can be intimidating to newbies like myself to know what to say about a shot they like, especially since there is alot I still don't know about what made that shot so good. In the 3 months I have been on here I have learn't what sooc, sc, editing ,hdr etc is but i still have alot to learn. Now I am going to worry I am not expressing myself well enough when I comment on someones
photo.....damn, one more thing to worry about!
Could all of you wonderful photographers out there who have been on 365 forever please write down a list of all the do's and dont's so I don't make any more faux pas's.
Thanks !
@bristolrose I've gotta say that is one of the most beautiful tantrum chucks I have read....good on you ...I hear your point of view loud and clear...just real and raw and perfect...I love passion...and girl u got some
@gigiz That is so funny, after I wrote that, I had to go and pat my horses, have a cup of tea and talk to a friend, then I thought.....I need to delete what I wrote as it is really doesn't matter and sounds like I am just having a bad day. I am not one to over react normally and I feel like I did. But I guess it's too late now...... :)
This subject has come up quite a few times over the last few years and I can see both sides of the discussion. Like @houdiniem I have always believed it is good manners to thank people and in the real world I always do but I also understand where @onarom is coming from especially if you are time poor and you follow lots of people, it could be frustrating and time consuming to be clicking on a pile of notifications that are just thanking you for your comments - time better spent looking at and commenting on others photos.
I have followers who thank me for every comment I make and some who never thank me but who am I to say who is right and who is wrong. Personally I used to thank everyone for each and every comment but stopped after several of these type of discussions dissuaded me from doing so. Now I only thank people for favs or for choosing one of my photos in a thread plus I answer all questions asked of me and I hope all my followers are happy with that.
i will never fault someone for saying "thank you"... never! but it isn't necessary... i will not feel slighted if i am not thanked for a comment...
i am very appreciative of all the comments and support i receive, and ii do try and comment back for comments - but i'm afraid i've been failing miserably in that regard of late due to so little time...
@bristolrose DO take lots of pictures, learn and have fun... DO NOT stress, overthink things or second guess yourself... :D
@northy , thank you for that advice, I have no problem with taking lots of pictures, (just trying to decide if any are good enough to post), but I will take to heart the later and try not to stress... :)
@bristolrose - It is not my intent to make anybody feel bad. As @jaynspain said "thanks, even if just one word, was better than no ackowledgement". And now that I think about what I said, it sounds straight up rude of me and I apologize for that.
This was just an opinion/though of mine that was rather poorly worded. Please don't take it to heart. One of the great things about this website is that there are not a list of Do's and Dont's, so keep doing what you're doing :)
@houdiniem@gigiz Your mum taught you well! This world would be a better place if everybody had that courteousness. I am not angry at people for saying "thank you", but it means more to me if somebody takes the time look at my photos and leave a comment. Again, this is just my opinion
When I get a notification that someone has mentioned me somewhere, the needy part of me gets excited thinking someone is discussing my photo, or omg, maybe telling me I've actually made it to the PP! haha So when I go to a page, scroll down and see " @Breigh - Thanks " ... well, my shoulders slump a little, I sigh and go ... "MAN, I scrolled past all these comments for that?!" Then I think "Well, at least they took the time"
On the other hand, there are times when I struggle myself when it comes to replying to people that post on my photo. If someone leaves a comment that says something I can reply to, I love that because I like to try to interact as much as I can. But if someone (and let's face it, there are comment spammers who obviously post the same two words on every photo they can find) just come along and post "great shot" ... what can you say other than "Thanks!" Are you supposed to say like "Thanks, and how's the weather there? How's your mom doing? What did you have for dinner today?" hehe There's not a lot to work with.
So in general I try to 'save it up' and then do a mass thank you / message with a bit more info on how I did the shot, or a funny little detail... and yes I do try to visit other people's photos and comment on them as well, but we know what a time sink this website can be. Sometimes we have to dial it back so we can actually get other things done. That means not always getting to other people's photos that day.
So I guess that was my longwinded way of saying that I can understand the disappointment (for lack of a better word) when you click and find just the "thanks" but I also know that if I just said something like "Hey nice photo!" I didn't give them much to reply to either, so it's all good in the end really!
@onarom , No worries! Thanks for clearing the air and sorry if I over reacted. I had a quick look at your project and you have some really great photos.....of course I shall be too scared to comment on them......lol !
I am struggling with thinking of creative ways to show gratitude every day. After three months of connecting 365 to a daily gratitude practice, I welcome any and every idea on how to give thanks and show appreciation. I love this conversation. :)
@aponi this is an issue that I grappled with the first few years I was on this wonderful sight, of course I wanted to thank each and every person who commented and how rude of me if I didn't but as time went on more and more people expressed their dislike of a) the word thanks and b) mass thank yous plus I got more and more followers which made it more difficult time wise to a) read all the comments left and b) check out photos and leave comments so something had to give. These days I would much rather spend my time looking at photos, commenting on photos and reading comments on mine ( even if it is only 'great shot') than opening a bunch of notifications that just say 'thanks'. For me it is a given that all comments are appreciated.
I have a Facebook friend who posted that he was tired of people posting photos of their home cooked dinners; vacations; and pets.
He stated that if you were going to post a photo on your Facebook page it should be of something meaningful like a glorious sunset you shared with a loved one.
And now, this, I don't like it if you say Thanks and I wasted my time to go look and that is all I got. Instead I'd prefer you post a comment on my photos/page.
To both of you, I can only say, isn't that nice that you want to control others. I can't decide if that is a good starting point for a career choice or if it might be time to consider a support group for people who like to tell others their expectations and then expect them to agree and or comply.
Oddly enough, I don't post a "thanks" in my photos. But I certainly don't bash my friends that do.
However, if we are into stating changes in responses and/or policy, I would now like anyone who views my photos to send me $1 per view via paypal. I think that the honor of just glancing at one of my photos is certainly worth a buck.
In exchange, I will do absolutely nothing for you. I will however, open a weekly column to bash anyone who doesn't comply.
I really enjoy the flexibility of 365 where people can respond as they choose. Some people are chattier than others and respond with comments to comments I have left on their posts. Sometimes I ask questions or respond to questions. Others say thanks or thank you for saying something about their photo. It's nice if people feel their own values are being met by using their manners in this way and just because we are online doesn't make it inappropriate. It's important to me to not be told how or how not to respond, and to respect the rights of others to choose how they respond. Live & let live.
@swguevin - I have no desire to try to control anyone on this site. I was simply stating my opinion. In fact, you should probably go back up and read some of my replies to get a better understanding of my opinion.
I do, however, like your idea and wish you the best with your endeavors of becoming an entrepreneur. I have looked at your photos and I certainly don't want to get bashed any more, so I would gladly send you a dollar :)
@carolinedreams - " It's important to me to not be told how or how not to respond" I can respect that.
I think Kathy @kjarn said what I should have "For me it is a given that all comments are appreciated." But again, this is only my opinion. By all means, keep doing what you are doing :)
@shutterbugger rofl @bristolrose seeing as nobody has addressed this - SOOC - straight out of camera. SC - selective color - black and white with subject in color. HDR, know what it is but what do those darn letters stand for.
There is a beginners discussion thread that did cover some of this - but as many will say "This is Your project" don't sweat the small stuff, sometimes you like a photo just because you do - its ok to say that.
It may not be the thing to say thank you to people when they comment on your photos but I'm sorry I can't help it........to me it feels rude not to say thank you to someone who has taken the time to stop by, check out my photo & leave a comment!
I tried once, last year I think, to stop saying thank you & just read the comments & leave it at that but couldn't, maybe it's the way I was brought up but again it's the way I am. Maybe that's why my viewing & comments are down who knows but I can live with it easier than not saying thank you!!!
@swguevin I dunno I think that's a little harsh... while I DO understand where you are coming from, as I appreciate any feedback (even just 'thanks') I think anyone would be lying if they said they weren't, at least ONCE, disappointed to return to a conversation to find the one word. I know I have been! There were times where I left comments on people's photos trying to spark an interaction and was met with 'Thanks'. While disappointing that it didn't spark a more interesting conversation or get whatever info / insight I was looking for on the photo, it doesn't mean I'm bashing them for saying things, rather just disappointed that they didn't say more.
Like I said, I can see both sides of this... as on the other side of the coin, sometimes I can't think of anything OTHER than 'thanks' to say in reply to a comment.
It's an interesting conversation / debate but it seems equally absurd to 'bash' people for having an opinion because you view that as 'bashing', know what I mean?
I personally say thanks loads, I try to reply to everyone because it feels impolite to not reply in some way... but maybe I'll take @kjarn's example and when there is a comment that doesn't really give me much to work with, rather than just giving the obligatory thanks, I'll just pop on over to their photos and comment (which I do anyway, but a little extra)
Oh what a silly but interesting conversation this is!
@onarom Hi Dale - Just came back to this discussion to see how it went and I'm shocked at the bashing some people meted out!! I mean Jeez do folk get het up and take things personally sometimes!!
I try to comment on lots of folks' pix as I really think it's what keeps the site ticking. I kept a note and of the notifications I got over 24 hours, 21 were thanking me for my comment. Some said more than that, some were friendly banter but most were just a block 'thanks' and while it was a nice gesture I wonder if they had any idea how long of my precious limited time here it took to read the same word. I wonder whether folk like to have the extra hits on their sites when friends come back to read the reply...?!
I always say thank you, but in one hit. Threads like this are great for getting people to consider how other people spend their time, so well done for starting it... and sorry to see you got a bashing from some who didn't get it. You got at least one new sympathetic follower anyway :)
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There you go. You make a critical comment on someone's photo of their prize spaghetti plant, suggesting some pruning, encouraging their use of dof, and monochrome but all they can say is thanks. Well I would be up in arms too Dale, say no, and demand an explanation.
@onarom I think the thoughtfulness of the reply should reflect the comment itself
@peterdegraaff Home-grown is definitely best, I find pig-manure works best, and lots of it. :)
I do believe we are all entitled to our own opinons but what you have just said is going to make some people, like me , feel bad about the times when they we reply with a thankyou. I try and reply with more but I dont always have the time or know what to say.
Also it can be intimidating to newbies like myself to know what to say about a shot they like, especially since there is alot I still don't know about what made that shot so good. In the 3 months I have been on here I have learn't what sooc, sc, editing ,hdr etc is but i still have alot to learn. Now I am going to worry I am not expressing myself well enough when I comment on someones
photo.....damn, one more thing to worry about!
Could all of you wonderful photographers out there who have been on 365 forever please write down a list of all the do's and dont's so I don't make any more faux pas's.
Thanks !
@houdiniem how weird my mother told me that also
I have followers who thank me for every comment I make and some who never thank me but who am I to say who is right and who is wrong. Personally I used to thank everyone for each and every comment but stopped after several of these type of discussions dissuaded me from doing so. Now I only thank people for favs or for choosing one of my photos in a thread plus I answer all questions asked of me and I hope all my followers are happy with that.
i will never fault someone for saying "thank you"... never! but it isn't necessary... i will not feel slighted if i am not thanked for a comment...
i am very appreciative of all the comments and support i receive, and ii do try and comment back for comments - but i'm afraid i've been failing miserably in that regard of late due to so little time...
@bristolrose DO take lots of pictures, learn and have fun... DO NOT stress, overthink things or second guess yourself... :D
This was just an opinion/though of mine that was rather poorly worded. Please don't take it to heart. One of the great things about this website is that there are not a list of Do's and Dont's, so keep doing what you're doing :)
Thanks to both of you. I very much enjoyed this thread, and came into it at just the right time in its arc.
When I get a notification that someone has mentioned me somewhere, the needy part of me gets excited thinking someone is discussing my photo, or omg, maybe telling me I've actually made it to the PP! haha So when I go to a page, scroll down and see " @Breigh - Thanks " ... well, my shoulders slump a little, I sigh and go ... "MAN, I scrolled past all these comments for that?!" Then I think "Well, at least they took the time"
On the other hand, there are times when I struggle myself when it comes to replying to people that post on my photo. If someone leaves a comment that says something I can reply to, I love that because I like to try to interact as much as I can. But if someone (and let's face it, there are comment spammers who obviously post the same two words on every photo they can find) just come along and post "great shot" ... what can you say other than "Thanks!" Are you supposed to say like "Thanks, and how's the weather there? How's your mom doing? What did you have for dinner today?" hehe There's not a lot to work with.
So in general I try to 'save it up' and then do a mass thank you / message with a bit more info on how I did the shot, or a funny little detail... and yes I do try to visit other people's photos and comment on them as well, but we know what a time sink this website can be. Sometimes we have to dial it back so we can actually get other things done. That means not always getting to other people's photos that day.
So I guess that was my longwinded way of saying that I can understand the disappointment (for lack of a better word) when you click and find just the "thanks" but I also know that if I just said something like "Hey nice photo!" I didn't give them much to reply to either, so it's all good in the end really!
He stated that if you were going to post a photo on your Facebook page it should be of something meaningful like a glorious sunset you shared with a loved one.
And now, this, I don't like it if you say Thanks and I wasted my time to go look and that is all I got. Instead I'd prefer you post a comment on my photos/page.
To both of you, I can only say, isn't that nice that you want to control others. I can't decide if that is a good starting point for a career choice or if it might be time to consider a support group for people who like to tell others their expectations and then expect them to agree and or comply.
Oddly enough, I don't post a "thanks" in my photos. But I certainly don't bash my friends that do.
However, if we are into stating changes in responses and/or policy, I would now like anyone who views my photos to send me $1 per view via paypal. I think that the honor of just glancing at one of my photos is certainly worth a buck.
In exchange, I will do absolutely nothing for you. I will however, open a weekly column to bash anyone who doesn't comply.
Thanks and love!!
Sheila
I do, however, like your idea and wish you the best with your endeavors of becoming an entrepreneur. I have looked at your photos and I certainly don't want to get bashed any more, so I would gladly send you a dollar :)
I think Kathy @kjarn said what I should have "For me it is a given that all comments are appreciated." But again, this is only my opinion. By all means, keep doing what you are doing :)
@bristolrose seeing as nobody has addressed this - SOOC - straight out of camera. SC - selective color - black and white with subject in color. HDR, know what it is but what do those darn letters stand for.
There is a beginners discussion thread that did cover some of this - but as many will say "This is Your project" don't sweat the small stuff, sometimes you like a photo just because you do - its ok to say that.
I tried once, last year I think, to stop saying thank you & just read the comments & leave it at that but couldn't, maybe it's the way I was brought up but again it's the way I am. Maybe that's why my viewing & comments are down who knows but I can live with it easier than not saying thank you!!!
Like I said, I can see both sides of this... as on the other side of the coin, sometimes I can't think of anything OTHER than 'thanks' to say in reply to a comment.
It's an interesting conversation / debate but it seems equally absurd to 'bash' people for having an opinion because you view that as 'bashing', know what I mean?
I personally say thanks loads, I try to reply to everyone because it feels impolite to not reply in some way... but maybe I'll take @kjarn's example and when there is a comment that doesn't really give me much to work with, rather than just giving the obligatory thanks, I'll just pop on over to their photos and comment (which I do anyway, but a little extra)
Oh what a silly but interesting conversation this is!
I try to comment on lots of folks' pix as I really think it's what keeps the site ticking. I kept a note and of the notifications I got over 24 hours, 21 were thanking me for my comment. Some said more than that, some were friendly banter but most were just a block 'thanks' and while it was a nice gesture I wonder if they had any idea how long of my precious limited time here it took to read the same word. I wonder whether folk like to have the extra hits on their sites when friends come back to read the reply...?!
I always say thank you, but in one hit. Threads like this are great for getting people to consider how other people spend their time, so well done for starting it... and sorry to see you got a bashing from some who didn't get it. You got at least one new sympathetic follower anyway :)