i shot senior pix for a client recently. they recieved a cd with around 50+ edited shots and prints of those shots as part of my package. they have free reign as to where they print off what they need from the cd.
the client has now called and asked for a cd of the shots i did not edit. they are willing to pay an additional cost for it.
my questions are...
1) do i give them the remaining unedited photos....there are many!
2) if i do...what should i charge?
i'm a bit uncomfortable about the whole deal as it has never come up in the past.
Why would they want the unedited shots....are they all the same as the edited ones ? Sounds a little weird ! I would just say I don't save the originals !
We NEVER give clients the unedited shots. Just say you pick out the absolute best shots and give them those, and you don't give out any shots that aren't color, contrast, or crop corrected. If they balk, just explain it's about putting out an extremely professional product, every time. Anything less than something you are completely satisfied with is trashed. (that's just about everything we say when this happens)
The photographers who are shooting my wedding do a similar thing with a CD of the edited images to print where ever we choose. They will also upon request, give an additional CD with all the "blinky face/ goofy" photos that are unedited, but they DO NOT include the copyright to print them. So the CD of non-edits will just be for our personal entertainment viewing, not printing to showcase for others. Don't know if that helps at all.
I've been in the clients position and the cost came to nearly $500 to get all the shots, which really deterred me from getting the additional shots. I was annoyed since it wasn't a long shoot and didn't understand the photographer's pricing scheme.
I understand why they want the extra shots (my photographer only gave me 8 out of mine although I knew there were many more shots I wanted, but it was a TFCD shoot so I can't really complain).
I'm not sure how to price it up frankly since most of the work and effort went into the best shots already. The only thing I can think of is to charge an hourly wage for your time spent overall (editing+shooting) and make that the cost. On average that should be $50/hr but you can always charge more depending on what your rates are.
Hope that helps :S
To be honest, editing makes a HUGE difference in the final product that you're selling! Although the images haven't been edited, you've still invested your time and hard earned cash into taking them, uploading them, burning them, and getting them to your customer. Then you have to ask yourself, is it going to help or hurt your business if potential clients see your unedited images? They have no idea of knowing that the "unedited freebies" so and so just showed them are just that....unedited images. As far as they know, if they book you as their photographer that's the kind of quality images they will get! My advice....don't sell anything that you wouldn't be proud to stick your name on!
Some good advice here. I've got nothing new to say - just going to agree with everyone who has said not to sell those images.
I tell clients that the images I've shown them are all of them. Any that I haven't shown them have been deleted due to blinking, unflattering expressions, test shots for light, because they look almost the same but not as good as another shot etc. And the reality is, they have been removed from my computer. I never tell them they still exist in my backups. Ever. And I will never provide unedited images of the ones they do have - it does not help business if they show those to other people.
An exception is commercial work, where the client is paying you to shoot raw files for their editors. Magazines are a common client for that type of shoot.
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I understand why they want the extra shots (my photographer only gave me 8 out of mine although I knew there were many more shots I wanted, but it was a TFCD shoot so I can't really complain).
I'm not sure how to price it up frankly since most of the work and effort went into the best shots already. The only thing I can think of is to charge an hourly wage for your time spent overall (editing+shooting) and make that the cost. On average that should be $50/hr but you can always charge more depending on what your rates are.
Hope that helps :S
I tell clients that the images I've shown them are all of them. Any that I haven't shown them have been deleted due to blinking, unflattering expressions, test shots for light, because they look almost the same but not as good as another shot etc. And the reality is, they have been removed from my computer. I never tell them they still exist in my backups. Ever. And I will never provide unedited images of the ones they do have - it does not help business if they show those to other people.
An exception is commercial work, where the client is paying you to shoot raw files for their editors. Magazines are a common client for that type of shoot.
i would NEVER hand over un-edited shots. that is just not professional.