Has anyone else noticed that the photos uploaded to the 365 Project have less color saturation? If I were viewing these photos on two different, uncalibrated monitors I could understand.
But I have a calibrated monitor. My photo looks fine when I upload it to my photo site, fine on Facebook, fine on Flickr...but flat on this site. Any ideas?
@geniabeana@alecio@kjarn It hasn't just been today, though. I've noticed this happening to almost all the photos I've been uploading. Which really bothers me, because the photo I uploaded today just looks flat and uninteresting. The actual photo has a much deeper saturation and really shows the colors of the turkey.
I think it's happened to just about everyone on this site from time to time. I think it all really depends on the editing and whatnot, but actually, I thought this about my picture I uploaded today. And yes, I think it's been brought up before. I don't think there is fix that I know of. I guess only Ross would know...
I wonder if it has to do with sizing before upload?? On some of mine I see a huge difference, but on the ones that I have cropped or resized before uploading, the difference doesn't seem so drastic.
I think @eyebrows had some great insight into what's going on. Essentially, the site "downgrades" the images a bit like "save for web" so that it displays them adequately, but not how originally produced. I upload at 1500-2000 pixels at 96-100% quality, and that seems to give fairly good results. If you upload at the display resolution, you are likely to suffer fairly significant file degradation. I use a calibrated display (Spyder3) and most (but not all) of my images appear satisfactorily similar to what the pre-uploaded files looks like.
@jinximages Interesting. Although I watermark all my photos, I also upgrade them at 500 pixels on the longest side @ 72 PPI to prevent anyone from being to steal my photos.
I will try one at full resolution and see if I can note a difference. But I have to say, if the only way to get good saturation on my images is to upload full resolution, I'll be a bit disappointed.
@jasonbarnette The DPI/PPI won't make any difference, because you're sizing by pixel dimension anyway, so it won't have any effect. Even if you upload at full resolution, the only size people can steal is the display size (because only you have access to the original size, with Ace membership), but that's quite a bit larger than 500 pixels now that there is a "view large" button. I don't think there is any real solution - if you keep it at 500 pixels you'll lose quality, if you go larger you won't lose as much (comparitively) and they'll be more useful to thieves. It's sort of like that anyway, anywhere else on the web. I do wish this site kept the quality as uploaded, but that would drastically increase the database size. If I was running the site I'm not sure how I'd go about the compromise, or if I'd likely come to the same conclusion as Ross already has. Maybe link to Flickr or such if your 365 version lacks the punch you desire.
I'm not sure about saturation, but mine are noticeably darker. Some of my shots that are low-key to start with lose significant detail due to getting darker after I've uploaded. (and my monitor is also calibrated regularly)
I usually resize to 800px wide for landscape and 600px tall for portrait prior to uploading.
I've noticed it a bit from time to time, but it's nothing compared to the hack job that Facebook started doing to my images! Even using the high resolution upload option, almost all of my images look blurry! I've gotten to where I don't even like to upload photos on it.
What @jinximages said, basically. The site resamples the images for the sake of saving space, which is a perfectly understandable solution. The running costs are significant as it is and this isn't pushed as a professional artsy site like say Flickr is.
Anyway one thing you could do is resize to 550 instead of 500 as that's the native size they're displayed at, which'll help with quality as there'll be no upscaling going on.
@luxvivens: I think they're getting blurry when you do not crop the pics before you upload them. If you don't do that, 365 does that for you and the result is a loss of quality. I always crop mine to 550 pixel, and never noticed any changes. The loss of color saturation may also have something to do with that, but I'm not sure about it.
can anyone tell me how to collaberate my main pc monitor ? i have noticed my photos look completely different on the laptops than they do on main pc so im constantly checking my work across the 3 :S
I was having the same issue until I realized my camera wasn't set to sRGB color. Once I changed that, the colors seemed to stay a little more true when I uploaded them here.
@kgphotography I wondered about that (the colour space) ... I've got mine set to Adobe RGB and rarely think to change it either on the camera or when I process the file. I'll change it to sRGB for a bit and see if I notice any more problems.
@kwakefield@kgphotography I've always used sRGB color mode in my camera, so I know that isn't the problem.
I'm afraid I may have to stop using this site. I love it, it's a wonderful idea. but the photo I wanted to upload today looks pathetically pitiful on this site. All the deep oranges of the rusted train car are completely robbed on this site and makes it look washed-out.
I can't understand why a photography site would degrade the photos in such a manner. It's like hosting a poetry site, but only displaying every other word. It's either all or nothing.
I hope Ross or someone else will see this thread and make a suggestion soon. My photos are starting to look horrible, much worse than on any other photo sharing site.
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I will try one at full resolution and see if I can note a difference. But I have to say, if the only way to get good saturation on my images is to upload full resolution, I'll be a bit disappointed.
I usually resize to 800px wide for landscape and 600px tall for portrait prior to uploading.
Anyway one thing you could do is resize to 550 instead of 500 as that's the native size they're displayed at, which'll help with quality as there'll be no upscaling going on.
I'm afraid I may have to stop using this site. I love it, it's a wonderful idea. but the photo I wanted to upload today looks pathetically pitiful on this site. All the deep oranges of the rusted train car are completely robbed on this site and makes it look washed-out.
I can't understand why a photography site would degrade the photos in such a manner. It's like hosting a poetry site, but only displaying every other word. It's either all or nothing.
I hope Ross or someone else will see this thread and make a suggestion soon. My photos are starting to look horrible, much worse than on any other photo sharing site.