What an absolutely horrendous change to what used to be a great service. Fortunately, I'm not alone. They are closing in on 5000 comments on their official feedback thread, and the comments are at least 99% negative. Follow the flames here: http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/72157633547442506/
Without an option to change the view, I'll be deleting my Flickr Pro account.
@catwhiskers yeah... took me a while to find the exif... on bottom right there are three little circles and that takes you there... not intuitive... not sure yet how to fav... other than that, can't say i'm unhappy with the look... my eyes aren't great and i'm appreciating the bigger crisper look to images...
@jase_again Aye, looks better to me n'all. Though the scrapping of Pro accounts is gonna cause a kerfuffle, wonder if there'll be a refund scheme now that the dumb 100 (or whatever) photo limit is toast.
Arrrgh what have they done! I have been a member for years and they have done some bad things in the past but this is just the worst!!!
Everyone go to the help forum. There are some threads there to vote - not that it will make any difference. :(
I love the new viewing format, especially the main page. It really highlights the photos others are posting so much nicer. Fortunately, all my pics are public so that won't be an issue for me.
I hate the new viewing format. It tells me nothing about the photos and takes ages to load. I'm going to be looking for a new home for my pictures - any suggestions?
@mercuria That's the same issue I have with it, Ariel. All the details I post with a photo are now buried several clicks behind it. I'm looking for a new home as well, so if anyone knows of a solution please let us know. I'll continue to use Smugmug for my main photo site - I love it - but I'd really like to find another photo-centric hosting site to replace the new Flickr.
@intymalcolm change is difficult... lots of people don't do well with it... a good change management strategy is always wise, and it doesn't look like they really had one
@intymalcolm There's change and there's change. When browsers can't display a changed site properly, when it's more difficult to navigate and much slower, it's not a good change.
I think I will be dropping flickr too. The old site was unstructured and difficult to navigate; the new one is just horrible. I'll probably go back to just using PBase
In PBase, everything is organised around "galleries" and you can customise the look of your galleries.
@northy Not convinced - what's the old adage, "it's better to ask forgiveness than permission". Change is fundamental to the nature of the universe. And it is certainly essential in software (indeed my biggest gripe about Photoshop is the pandering to the installed user base's resistance to change that means it's stuck with that Dog awful counter-intuitive UI.
Change is inevitable, embrace it. Resistance is futile.
@danette :lol: That's hilarious! Not only is the blogger barely literate ("I drug it" :rofl:), but he has a fundamental misunderstand of how the web works. There is nothing - absolutely nothing - that can be done to stop someone taking a copy of an image on the web; it's downloaded to your local machine as soon as you load the webpage, else you'd not be able to see it. That the exif is 'missing' is an optimisation of the resize process, to make viewing faster (a quick grep of his flickr stream shows the exif is still there associated with the image)
Never upload at wider than 600px? Really? That's barely a sixth the area of a standard, low end monitor - why would you upload a photo and deliberately make it look crap? And as for registering, at ~£40 a go, that's not really viable (and I though film was expensive!).
If you're really, really bothered about the possibility of someone stealing an image then the ONLY way to stop it is not to put it online.
@intymalcolm begging forgiveness is a strategy... If that's the one they chose, fine... Presumably this means they have a plan in place to deal w negative reaction... Or they are prepared to deal w a mass exodus or at least the threat of one... I don't spend enough time on Flickr at the mo to have a rational viewpoint, but so far I am on balance happier w the new look and functionality than not... Sure there's a learning curve... But as you say (more or less) deal w it!
My original comment on change mgmt is more from my experience in managing change which isn't in marketing robin dealing w this kind if customer base... So really, what do I know ;)
@intymalcolm You are most certainly entitled to your opinion and perspective. However, please don't discredit Daniel J. Cox. He is well respected in the industry and has substantial credits. Professionals who rely on selling their work don't want it taken without permission. While he doesn't use Flikr, he was warning others to be aware.
@northy Aye, reckon they must have. My guess is that it's broadly the same as Faceache's, ie "get over it" :)
@danette I make no comment about his work; he's clearly pro (who else could afford to register copyright with the appropriate agencies!) and I'm very, very much not. However, he is no Internet technology expert - and, as it goes, I am - and as such his apparent belief that some website are somehow able to prevent someone 'stealing' an image is wrong. They cannot. It's not possible. Further his concerns about exif are, I believe, misplaced; it's a 2 second job to strip that data even if it was included in the (now bloated) displayed image and do you think, really, that in the event that someone plans to steal an image the presence of exif is really going to stop them?
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http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/72157633547442506/
Without an option to change the view, I'll be deleting my Flickr Pro account.
@catwhiskers @northy Just click on the star icon below a photo to fav it
Everyone go to the help forum. There are some threads there to vote - not that it will make any difference. :(
Hmmm, indeed log out and search and everything is in order - exactly as I left it. :shrug:
Srsly? lol :D
And I can't find how to delete any of my photos.
In PBase, everything is organised around "galleries" and you can customise the look of your galleries.
Here are my "365 Leftovers" galleries on Pbase: http://www.pbase.com/helstor/365_leftovers
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/change-flickr-back?source=c.url&r_by=7904580
Change is inevitable, embrace it. Resistance is futile.
@danette :lol: That's hilarious! Not only is the blogger barely literate ("I drug it" :rofl:), but he has a fundamental misunderstand of how the web works. There is nothing - absolutely nothing - that can be done to stop someone taking a copy of an image on the web; it's downloaded to your local machine as soon as you load the webpage, else you'd not be able to see it. That the exif is 'missing' is an optimisation of the resize process, to make viewing faster (a quick grep of his flickr stream shows the exif is still there associated with the image)
Never upload at wider than 600px? Really? That's barely a sixth the area of a standard, low end monitor - why would you upload a photo and deliberately make it look crap? And as for registering, at ~£40 a go, that's not really viable (and I though film was expensive!).
If you're really, really bothered about the possibility of someone stealing an image then the ONLY way to stop it is not to put it online.
Anyhow. Rant over. As you were :D
My original comment on change mgmt is more from my experience in managing change which isn't in marketing robin dealing w this kind if customer base... So really, what do I know ;)
@danette I make no comment about his work; he's clearly pro (who else could afford to register copyright with the appropriate agencies!) and I'm very, very much not. However, he is no Internet technology expert - and, as it goes, I am - and as such his apparent belief that some website are somehow able to prevent someone 'stealing' an image is wrong. They cannot. It's not possible. Further his concerns about exif are, I believe, misplaced; it's a 2 second job to strip that data even if it was included in the (now bloated) displayed image and do you think, really, that in the event that someone plans to steal an image the presence of exif is really going to stop them?