Vintage shutter remote cables.

April 19th, 2012
I have recently purchased a Vivitar V335 film camera and I can find very little about this model out. Do older cameras all use the same shutter release cables or will I have to buy one specific to the model? On ebay they are just listed as vintage unless they are branded but other than this they don't really put any more information in there descriptions. I can get a manual from a local camera shop but apart from the optional accessories list, I don't really need it.
April 19th, 2012
@justeddie According to this site: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=30167006 you need a "locking cable release". Not sure what that is, but with any of your vintage film cams, you'll have to poke around the Internet and see. Flickr is sometimes a good source, if it's a cam that has any sort of a following.

Also, Google "butkus manuals"...I can never remember the link, but he has online manuals for pretty much every camera ever. I daresay he'd have the one for yours, or something similar, and you might be able to look at the accessories list in that.
April 19th, 2012
I've been on both, I had to start my own group up on Flicker and invite members along so I don't think it is that popular a model. Its not really that vintage, that is what worries me about buying an older cable. This model was produced 87-91ish. Vivitar were changing hands around this time.

The only real info I could find is that it is a work horse and it takes LR44 batteries. the bloke in the camera shop seems pretty helpful and knows me well so I'll just have to pop down and ask if he knows and if not can he have a look in the manual for me without me paying £20. If you don't ask, you don't get!
April 19th, 2012
@beautifulthing I have read that post as well but I don't know if there was a standard size for locking cables or not.... I'll keep digging.
April 19th, 2012
Thanks for your help :)
April 19th, 2012
@justeddie Hmm - what sort of connector does it have for the shutter release? Does it go right into the button or is it somewhere else? That might help.

A good thing about vintage cams like this - you only need the batteries to run the light meter. They're fully functional without it, so the Sunny 16 and similar rules serve you well. I have a couple that don't have functional light meters and I can use them just fine.
April 19th, 2012
I have a Vivitar V6000, not sure about the remote release but they do use Pentax K-mount for the lens mount, so you should be able to pick up some nice lens on ebay fairly cheaply.
April 19th, 2012
@beautifulthing It goes straight into the button. I got a handy little exposure guide based on the sunny 16 rule, I was busy putting it together today, its awsome. My light meter works but its useless as I am using a fixed aperture Holga lens. I'm on my own and loving it!
April 19th, 2012
@38mm II down loaded the V3000 manual in hopes that they would all use the same accessories but there was no list :(

I have some really great shops around here for k-mount gear but for primes your right ebay is the boyo!
April 19th, 2012
@beautifulthing No, my V6000 needs battery power to switch on so I suspect his will be the same.

April 19th, 2012
@justeddie I had a K mount Pentax until just recently, and I was never hugely crazy about the lens, a Rokinon. It was okay, but just!
April 19th, 2012
@38mm @beautifulthing I just started following you both, I had to laugh out loud at both of your intro quotes, They were brilliant.

@38mm I think mine was the lowest number in the V range so I am assuming batteries or none they would use the same accessories.

April 19th, 2012
@justeddie Right as far as I can tell yours was made by Cosina and re-branded as a Vivitar. Worth an email to COsina asking about it?
April 19th, 2012
@beautifulthing Apart from a Takumar A and my digital kit lens I have nothing to compare lens on, I liked the Takumar A's colour tone more than the digital, and the way it handled the light when shooting towards it but am still eagerly awaiting my film. Will it be as good on film? only time will tell.
April 19th, 2012
@38mm It certainly could be if the man in the camera shop can't help me. Where did you find that little gem out? I've been banging my head against the keyboard since friday trying to find a little more out.
April 19th, 2012
@justeddie I have a Super-Takumar lens - probably the best bit of glass I own. :)

The more I look, the more I think you need one of these: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5845-REG/General_Brand_SR715_Cloth_Cable_Release_with.html

Look at the reviews - many of these folks are talking about using them with older/vintage cams. They come in different lengths, it looks like, all the way to 60". Probably even longer.
April 19th, 2012
@beautifulthing Collio, Thanks. With a name like general brand that certainly implies that all cameras would have the same thread size much like the tripod screw.
April 19th, 2012
@justeddie Here, shame there wasn't anymore info on the thread though
April 19th, 2012
@beautifulthing I was told to get a Super Takumar if I saw one so when it came to the choice of a Sonigor or the Tak, There was only ever going to be one winner.
April 19th, 2012
@38mm It still gives me something to go on, I'll just hunt through Cosinas cameras of that era and hopefully will spot its other model name, they are usually very close when firms do this. Silly old me was looking in the Pentax range.

I find it hilarious how all these camera companies do, do this. It just goes to show that the brand is not always overly important. On the up side its great that we can go and get alternative cheaper versions to try out instead of forking out top dollar for the real vintage stuff.
April 19th, 2012
@justeddie How about this?, slightly different rubber grip but I think its the same camera. If it is then the manual is here
April 19th, 2012
@38mm That looks like the one, wow!. Thanks for that, I really didn't expect you to go hunting for me haha!
April 19th, 2012
@38mm The only difference is the self timer, I don't have one.
April 19th, 2012
@justeddie I think the CT-1A had the timer, so I guess yours is the CT-1G? And if it means one more person buying film then it was worth the effort :)
April 20th, 2012
@38mm Lol I was always going to buy film from day one, I just went digital in-case I couldn't make the switch to manual. As it happens it took me about a week to start using it. Then that camera broke and I ended up with an alternative model and rather than read the instruction manual I just turned off auto focus and went for it. I have only recently started messing around with the programme modes to see if there is any point to it at all haha.

I'm so ready for this film to arrive, I need the sunshine too as Holga is as nasty as the name sounds in low light. That's why I am asking about shutter release cables.
April 20th, 2012
@justeddie Holgas are definitely tricky in low light - I have two Holga cams and a Holga lens for my DSLR. I think I've used that lens like twice - it was just too fiddly. I do have a Holga 120CFN, and the flash on that does some cool effects. :)

Film people, especially vintage film camera people, get REALLY excited to talk about it. I think @38mm will quite agree. I love going on hunting expeditions for info or just having a chat about whatever cam it is, so throw those questions out there whenever you want!
April 20th, 2012
@beautifulthing Just posted my first pick from my Holga 120CFN; it's an I can haz the suck masterpiece! LOL
April 20th, 2012
@beautifulthing Haha I know what you mean, people laugh at me cos i'm so passionate about photography full stop. Given half the chance its all I talk about haha

I really enjoyed having the Holga on my DSLR I only took it off because I was doing a doggy shoot, mines a K mount and the lens kept spinning in the cheap EOS adapter and it was starting to wear the lens plastic down so I didn't think it was a great idea putting it back on again, I reckon dirt I had on my sensor was probably a shard of plastic.
April 20th, 2012
@beautifulthing How many stops would you take off when using the flash with your Holga as for me with my chosen camera its going to have to be helped out a little either by longer exposure or with a flash. I have very little experience using flash.
April 20th, 2012
April 20th, 2012
@justeddie I don't think I ever got that far with it! I rarely use flash anyway, though, so I wouldn't be the best on that.

@38mm :)
April 20th, 2012
@beautifulthing @38mm My films here, Frame 1 is sitting in the breach and ready to shoot, i'm so excited yet at the same time frightened, I don't want to waste a frame, obviously I'm going to waste plenty but not if I can help it... Hell yes!!! I wanted to swear but I know there may be kids around!
April 20th, 2012
@justeddie Haha, yep it does get like that. Will you be taking part in this tomorrow?
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1901075@N25/
April 20th, 2012
@38mm One day ;) just as soon as I've ran a few rolls I reckon, I really am going to take my time to start off with.
I'm interested in multiple exposures at the minute and I want to get creative with them if I can! I have to release the roll to do a multiple so god knows what they will be like by the end of the roll.

I'm going to take my time to get the first few frames as close as I can to good then after that I'll relax a little because I have noticed on someone else's work who has the same camera that the film slips a little when using this method.
April 20th, 2012
@beautifulthing

I'm struggling a little with steps and stops haha I'm not the first I know but I'm feeling a little stuck.

As the holga has no aperture I'm stuck on f8, my film is 100 iso and according to the guide today is heavily over cast so 1/60 should get me a correct exposure.

doing doubles i understand to under expose to the power of two to 1 so if i was going to do two exposures I would lower them both by 1 stop..

is 1/125 1 stop from 1/60 or is a stop calculated by moving both the aperture and shutter setting as I think, or am I just being stupid haha.
April 20th, 2012
I know that I can cheat and change the ISO setting but that won't offer me any room to play if i was to do 4 or more exposures.
April 20th, 2012
I was being stupid sometimes you can read some things so many times and it makes you doubt your understanding or if you are even understanding it at all. I left my last exam thinking I had failed and I scored enough points to take the top qualification. Strangely enough it was psychology!
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