SOOC week challenge!

December 31st, 2011
So i havent been on in a little while because of time spent with Family and such, but i just realized that i forgot to remind everyone abut SOOC week challenge! So i was thinking about some rules.. photos will have to fit the time frame of January 2nd to the 8th GMT standard time. This is an honesty challange! you are only cheating yourself remember that!! If you put a signature on your photos that is fine too.
Photos can be tagged with SOOC-week. Then at the end of the week, I can start a new thread and we can post our favorite photo we took that week. this is something i thought would be a fun way to get to know some of the 365'ers and challenge myself!

Ps- feel free to post your photos in this thread :)
December 31st, 2011
Is cropping or rotating considered "cheating"? I have some i like but they're rotated the wrong way. :)
December 31st, 2011
@tigervolleyball no thats fine! just any after-processing that does not include adding a signature. so stuff like contrasting, using curves etc. hopefully it makes us work to get the perfect picture :)
December 31st, 2011
December 31st, 2011
@tigervolleyball @shyanewiegers Can I recommend that if you do crop, you have to say so? Because as you mentioned, we want to practice getting to the perfect photo. I am a huge fan of SOOC, and one of the things I really had to practice was proper framing and it helps a lot to strive for that. In the past, I'd figuratively "had my hand slapped" so to speak for saying SOOC and cropped, and it really made me work harder to be able to type SOOC. Rotating, I think, doesn't count though. All the information is intact when you rotate and when you crop it isn't.

Those are my thoughts anyway. I look forward to the challenge. :-)


December 31st, 2011
@5unflow3r I agree - IMO, cropping, rotating, and watermarks negate being able to call a picture SOOC. Just my $.02, though. :)
December 31st, 2011
@beautifulthing @5unflow3r I just figured some people would like having the signature on, i dont have one though. But yes i guess i should probably make the clear right now. thank you guys for the help :)

NO CROPPING, ROTATING, WATER MARKS or AFTER PROCESSING. if you do feel the need to crop (try not to but it is your picture) Then make sure you state it! but try not to do any of it. Keep it simple, Just snap the pic, upload it on your comp, log onto 365, upload photo, tag your photo SOOC-week and viola ! :)
December 31st, 2011
I did not crop or rotate this one, just to let you know! :) This is truly straight out of the camera, [sooc] :D
December 31st, 2011
@beautifulthing @shyanewiegers @tigervolleyball Excellent! So it'd be hardcore SOOC. :-D
December 31st, 2011
My 2-cents... I have a little problem with sooc when it is done with a ($$$) camera that "pre-processes" vs. a ($) camera that has no such features. Some cameras cannot adjust the lighting, framing (zoom), etc. yet to do that after the picture is taken eliminates it from sooc, but to do it before the picture is taken is OK. So money ends up being a factor in sooc. An example would be Sarah's photo above which was taken with a FinePix HS20EXR, vs. a very basic point and shoot or phone camera. I'm just guessing here, but I think that at the very least Sarah has zoomed to get a good "frame" for her shot, so technically making it sooc. However, this shot looks nearly impossible to get on a basic and/or phone camera with no, or very little zoom capability. In my book pre-processing and post-processing the same things (frame, exposure, etc.) should be considered the same thing and both should either be "sooc" or neither should be "sooc."
December 31st, 2011
I've just done 365 SOOC shots, I'm now looking forward to editing lol!
December 31st, 2011
@minxymissk just took a look at your project congrats! all good photos, no fillers you are a dedicated 365er :)

@marilyn yes that is true.. but i mean we can do the best we can.It would be very hard to tell people that they couldnt zoom in to be considered purely "sooc". People with point and shoots will just have to work a little bit harder! there are some Point and shoots that still do have a decent zoom and can achieve similar results. But you are right, money does come into effect. I own a Rebel 2ti and it will not own up to some of the higher models but i used all my own money to buy it so i found a way to work with it! So i guess for this challenge it will be a post processing issue. Whatever you take on your camera, with all the settings is still OK as long as you do not edit it afterwards. I can see how this could be difficult for point and shoots but i dont know how else to fix this! sorry.
December 31st, 2011
@shyanewiegers Wow Shyane, thank you! xx
December 31st, 2011
@shyanewiegers I don't think it can be fixed... I was just commenting. :) SOmw people are just so proud of their fabulous sooc shots and I always wonder how much pre-processing was involved for them to get it. I have actually taken some pics I am pretty proud of sooc with my iPhone, but I rarely use the sooc tag on my pics, because it is so irrelevant to me... both because of the discrepancy in camera abilities and because I feel that if a good photo can be made better by a little crop or straightening or exposure edit, then why not?
December 31st, 2011
Just took this... I did no editing after I snapped the shot, thus making it SOOC.
December 31st, 2011
@marilyn - I got some really nice shots with my point-and-shoot before I got a DSLR. I think composition and knowing the lighting in the room, etc. is very important with either camera. Don't think it's easier with a DSLR to get a good shot. You an do equally as well with any other camera. Just watch your lighting, composition, subjects matter.
December 31st, 2011
@shyanewiegers - I'm seeing pix posted and yet your description says Jan 2. Just makin sure we're on the same page.
December 31st, 2011
@marilyn Personally speaking I set out to do my project without editing purely so I could learn about lighting, composition, focus etc without relying on cropping and post-editing to get the shot I wanted...I wanted to learn how to get that shot, with my camera using just the settings on it. I started out using a 3 year old P&S and graduated to a 400D, I also used my new Canon Powershot.

To me it wasn't about "Ooh look at me, all sooc" It was about a learning curve, to me it was just too easy to repair all my mistakes with editing. If I had done that all year I wouldn't have learnt half of the skills I have during this year.
January 1st, 2012
actually if I take a photo with my iphone in portrait mode I must rotate it in an app in order for it to come up correctly on the site. So back to the rotating but I do think crop takes away from SOOC. Also you may want to check some of the previous discussions on a week of this. Last time it was called nakedchallenge
January 1st, 2012
I'm new to this whole thing however I'm really interested in trying! What are the rules other than what you stated at the beginning?
January 1st, 2012
Newb here!
So I take it SOOC means something along the lines of raw images, no editing. But what does it stand for?
January 1st, 2012
Yes it is january 2nd don't worry!
@debsphotos

@ang_2012 sooc stands for straight out of camera :) I hope you will join in!

@jseperack pretty simple! No after editing, tag with sooc-week. There are no limits to the pictures you take! Have some fun with it, get to know your camera a little better. You can post your photos from jan 2-8 up on here. After the week I will start another thread for people to post their after comments and their fav photo from the week :) hope that helps and hope you join in on bringing in the new year with some fun!!!
January 1st, 2012
what's the verdict on in-camera apps like hipstamatic? (@beautifulthing?)



images are uncropped, unrotated, SOOC. Sure, there is in-camera processing, but that applies to every single digital photograph. You can do crazy things with colour using a DSLR as well (e.g. daylight shooting using tungsten white balance), and saturation and contrast are always processed in-camera if you shoot jpegs.

Just stirring really, but it is a legitimate question :)
January 1st, 2012
Thanks @shyanewiegers - makes sense now!
January 1st, 2012
@debsphotos @minxymissk I am not trying to take away the learning that comes with trying to shoot the best photo you can and I totally agree that being able to fix too easily can prevent that learning. And can you honestly say that shooting SOOC was not WAY easier when you got the nice new expensive and fancy camera?
@shyanewiegers Seriously did you say that people with point and shoots will just have to work a little harder? So when you post a SOOC taken with a really nice DLSR do you put a disclaimer saying, "I didn't have to work too hard to get this fabulous shot... my camera did most of the work for me"? OR if you shoot with basic camera can you add, "I had to work way harder for this shot because I am poor"?

OK... I am done with my SOOC rant. It is an issue that will never be resolved – even those who are strong SOOC users/supporters can't seem to totally agree on what constitutes an SOOC shot. :)
January 1st, 2012
@marilyn no I'm not saying that at all! Just you work with whatever you have. Wether it be with a point and shoot or a DSLR. When I had my point and shoot their were limitations compared to my new camera but you find ways to make it work.
January 1st, 2012


The blurry black dot is the bullet, the wavy look is the heat from the shot. I could never get the bullet in focus, to fast. Even when I adjusted the focus futher out it wouldn't catch so at least I have the gun in focus and not the dirt. Next time we'll try with a lower velocity bullet and a smaller aperture, but to even catch a blurry bullet the shutter speed had to be on 8000 so all the settings were fighting.

This was my first time shooting a bullet and it's completely SOOC. It's not in the January time frame, just thought I'd share anyways.
January 1st, 2012
Here's mine. The only thing I did in photoshop is add the caption. Otherwise, the entire image is SOOC.

January 1st, 2012

All i done was crop this photo, its much better viewed large.
January 1st, 2012
Taken very early New Year's Day
January 1st, 2012
@marilyn Personally, I just find it different taking the shot with the different cameras! Perhaps you should take a look at some of the December shots in @jasonbarnette 's project. He lost/killed both his DSLR's and then re-created some of his earlier shots with his P&S...I think he proved with those that it's not the camera, it's the photographer.
January 1st, 2012
@dieter i think Instamatic and apps like that should try to be avoided! lovely picture though :)

PS DONT FORGET EVERYONE THAT IT STARTS TOMORROW!! :) cant wait.
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January 2nd, 2012
@shyanewiegers yes, I'm sure you're right :) I just wanted to point out that there is a big difference between an image that is SOOC and one that is 'unmanipulated', which people aren't always aware of. For me, the most important aspect of SOOC is getting exposure and (especially) composition right, without relying on software to fix mistakes. There is also a lot of skill involved in getting appealing colour and contrast using in-camera functions. This is processing in-camera rather than on the desktop, but it is still processing. At the end of the day there is no such thing as an unmanipulated image. But I agree, hipstamatic is not in the spirit of SOOC! :)
January 2nd, 2012
@dieter yes exactly! its just something to help you think about the basics of photography :) hope to see you join in on the fun!
January 2nd, 2012
Is there a specific topic or we can post whatever photo we want (as far as it is taken from 02 to 08 Jan 2012?)
January 2nd, 2012
January 3rd, 2012
One from each album!







January 3rd, 2012
I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the point of STRAIGHT OUT OF CAMERA has NOTHING to do with preprocessing. It means that after the image is taken, nothing further is done to manipulate the image. Neither a point and shoot, nor a DSLR means you have to work harder than the other, it simply means you take the image as you see fit, whether that's just snapping the button, or actually creating the image and then not further editing it 'out of camera'. End of story, has nothing to do with how it got INTO the camera. Can't wait to see what everyone does! I posted mine today. =)
January 3rd, 2012
@dieter
"there is a big difference between an image that is SOOC and one that is 'unmanipulated', which people aren't always aware of."

What is the difference, please explain?
January 3rd, 2012
@dieter I agree. My camera gives you the options to adjust almost anything about the picture before it's even taken but I have a settings mode that I programed to be all nutral and bass-lined so if I want to take a pic to be SOOC that's about the best I can do. If it's a digital camera, someone who shoots on old school all manual film SLR cameras would say what we shoot will never be true unmanipulated SOOC. It's just the nature of digital.

Also I don't think theirs alot of difference between a point and shoot and a DSLR camera when it comes to taking a SOOC picture. Most point and shoot have a good zoom and alot of people shoot DSLR cameras with fixed lenses. It's more of a matter of the photographer then the camera in my opinion. My cousin has a point and shoot and she takes amazing pictures. It's all about havign a good eye.
January 3rd, 2012


This was taken on January 3rd. I had to stick it on the November calendar.
This was taken with my point n shoot straight out of the camera.
January 3rd, 2012
Art
I have a newbie dumb question. How do you add a picture when posting a reply to this thread? Is there a how-to page that I have missed somehow?
January 3rd, 2012
Family Tree
January 3rd, 2012
Today is my 25th birthday.
January 3rd, 2012
glad someone finally mentioned what SOOC meant. Please do not assume we all know as many are new here like me. At least I learned something new today.
January 3rd, 2012
@otdafot I just learned how to share my pictures recently. 1) You go to your own project 2) Go to the page that has the picture you want to share 3) lower right corner you will see the word "share" and there will be a link inside that box. 4) right click and select copy while the link is highlighter 4) go to the page of the challenge or where you want the photo to appear 5) right click past 6) select post.
January 3rd, 2012
My computer is down, so I've been using other people's computers to upload my pictures, thus I don't have access to my GIMP and thus by happy accident, this picture is SOOC:
January 3rd, 2012
Art
Thanks Kathy, I'll try that.
Everything I do is a work of...
Art
January 3rd, 2012
The one I took today (for tomorrow because I'm in hospital all day) is sooc.

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Here's mine. Silly kitchen fun :)

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Here is my entry... candle lit cannonball into a vase. The photo in my album has my signature.. that is the only processing... So here is the SOOC to abide by the rules.


January 3rd, 2012
Morgan
January 4th, 2012
@otdafot LOL!I loved this! There is a how to page for beginners too but to save my soul I can not find it right now I am going to keep looking for you1
January 4th, 2012
love seeing all these wonderful SOOC images! :)
January 4th, 2012
@bonniebouman "there is a big difference between an image that is SOOC and one that is 'unmanipulated', which people aren't always aware of."

Hi Bonnie,

Steven in the comment after yours brought up film, and that is the perfect comparison for the point I was trying to make. Like most people who grew up collecting prints from the local minilab I used to have the false impression that those were somehow ‘unmanipulated’, straight out of the camera. If you go back to the basics of what a photographic image is, you’ll see how wrong that is.

With film photography an unmanipulated image SOOC is a blank bit of film*. End of story. Hold it up to the light and have a look – there is nothing there! What has been recorded on the film is a latent image. The light-sensitive chemicals in the film have been exposed to light and their chemistry has changed, but until the film has been developed there is no image. An undeveloped film, SOOC, can be manipulated (with choice of chemicals, time and temperature) to produce any one of an infinite number of possible negatives. But once it has been developed and fixed, there is, forever, only a single negative that exists in reality. From that single negative, any number of different prints can be produced, through choice of paper, chemicals, enlarger filters and so on, all of which is deliberate manipulation of the image to alter such things as tonal range, colour balance, saturation and contrast. The final print is a result of two stages of manipulation: production of the initial negative, then that of the final print. If you pick up your print from the local minilab the creative choices that determine what the final print looks like have been made for you, but they have still been made. Still SOOC, perhaps, but not unmanipulated.

So, on to digital. An unmanipulated digital image (raw file) looks something like this:

…110001010011001010000011101000001011001000111001010011…

It is just data, nothing more. If you view a raw file on your computer, what you are seeing is a preview image, an example of what it looks like after default processing. The raw file is analogous to an undeveloped film; it is a latent image, from which any number of actual images can be produced. In order to be made into an image file that is visible on your computer screen it needs to be manipulated, i.e. processed (or ‘developed’). The developing process for a digital image includes the application of sharpening algorithms, adjustment of colour balance, correction of lens distortions, and a reduction in the number of captured tones and colours from tens of billions to 16.7 million possible colours per pixel in a jpeg image (i.e. 256 shades of red, blue and green per pixel). Adjustments to the saturation and contrast in the image are made during this process. A final jpeg file is perhaps most analogous to a print produced from a photographic negative in that it is a single realisation of the original latent image. Shooting SOOC implies producing a jpeg or tiff image straight from the camera. What this means is that the manipulation of the original raw image (the processing) is performed inside the camera according to software settings in the camera itself. You can either choose to adjust these settings yourself, or choose varying degrees of automation, which in practice means that the creative choices have already been made by the software engineers who programmed your camera.

So why does any of this matter? Because the idea of the camera as an objective ‘window on the world’ is an illusion. Manipulation of what the camera records to best fit your creative vision of an image is a fundamental aspect of photography. Take colour balance as a simple example. The human eye has a remarkable capacity to see colours as they ‘should be’ rather than as they are. Imagine if you take a photograph of a bride in a white dress, indoors under fluorescent lighting. An ‘objective’ rendition of the scene would show her wearing a sickly shade of green. You need to adjust the colours in the image to show the scene as your eyes see it, by setting the white balance on your camera. Nobody would suggest that such an image is not SOOC, but it is manipulated.

It’s not cheating to use camera settings to ‘manipulate’ a SOOC image, it’s a necessity to realise your own vision of the scene in front of your lens. The only choice you have as a photographer is whether to take control of image processing yourself by using manual settings, or whether to abdicate that responsibility by using automatic ones.

I would suggest that a workable definition of SOOC could be “an image to which only global adjustments have been made, in-camera, using pre-defined settings on the camera itself, which has not been rotated or cropped.”

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*there is an exception to my point about SOOC using film, and that is images developed in camera (e.g. polaroid), which come fully realised ‘straight out of the camera’. Ironically, these are closer to hipstamatic and other digital lo-fi techniques than what is usually considered SOOC ;)

@beautifulthing @peterdegraaff @djepie @hmgphotos @esmeanne
January 4th, 2012
i'm all about SOOC...because i don't have the time or patience for editing.



January 4th, 2012
@shyanewiegers @bonniebouman @beautifulthing @peterdegraaff @djepie @hmgphotos @esmeanne @brumbe

Since was included in discussion will add my limited view? Straight out of the camera (SOOC) or even straight out of the phone simply means not after processed. For example, with an analog camera the photographic outcome could be determined by choice of lens, filter (including colour or polarising), aperture, shutter speed, ISO and film choice (i.e. Ekatchrome vs Fujichrome vs Ilford, positive or negative), etc. The image produced was also able to be manipulated in the darkroom.

Similarly with a digital camera it is possible to make choices around lens, aperture, shutter speed, filters including analogue to attach to the lens and creative programs such as macro, landscape, sunset, etc. which assist in setting choices. These are choices made before shooting.

Similarly in phoneography, programs such as hipstamtic choices around lens and filter are made in advance of shooting so the skill is in taking the shot not in any post processing. In my view hipstamtic shots are straight out of the iPhone (SOOi or SOOP).

To complicate matters more I have started experimenting with changing the actual lenses used on my camera to produce actual effects. I am experimenting with actual Holga lenses on my Olympus PEN. Theoretically with lens adapters it is possible to mount vintage lenses on micro four third cameras. I think this is pretty wicked and the result is SOOC.

Another complication is digitisation of 35mm slides. In my view these are SOOC. I have some fabulous examples with the deepest blue skies taken in the Andes as a result of film choice and lens filters.

Photos taken in some formats need to be rotated for 365. My view is that these are still SOOC. Minimal cropping could almost be SOOC but major cropping has the effect of zooming or blowing up. perhaps the best option is to declare.

Now for some SOOC taken this week

1. Analogue Holga lens on Olympus PEN to produce vignetting and pin hole effect without processing!


2. No cropping or manipulation but did use camera macro program.


January 4th, 2012
@peterdegraaff Every time you post a picture with that Holga lens, my brain explodes a little. :) I really want one!
January 4th, 2012
@peterdegraaff lovely photographs! But what I was saying above in this thread somewhere, that it is to help you get to know your camera settings, playing around withouut editing afterwards. But there is someone here who keeps trying to bring me down by saying I'm wrong. Thanks for supporting me :)
January 4th, 2012
@shyanewiegers Maybe there is some arguing at cross purposes. Thankyou for supporting SOOC and SOOi
January 4th, 2012
@beautifulthing So did you check out the Holga link?
January 4th, 2012
@peterdegraaff I did! SO on my list for next purchases. :)
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Recharge
Sometimes you just need a little help to recharge your battery.

January 4th, 2012
Art
I love to tweek my photos in Photo Shop (from my old B/W dark room days I guess) but I thought I'd give the sooc challenge a try to remind me that my best photos sometimes occur when I crop in camera instead of manipulating the image later. With moving subjects, I just have to wait them out for that microsecond when they pause long enough to take the shot and then live with whatever I get and call it good enough. Thanks for the challenge.

I call this shot "Turtle's Eye View"
January 4th, 2012
Art
@grammyn Katy, As a smug American who never was taught how to use the metric system well, I just discovered through your photograph how I can lose pounds quickly without dieting. Hooray!
January 5th, 2012
January 5th, 2012
I also love to tweek my photos in PhotoShop so this is a great challenge for me. Normally I would never post a photo without at least doing noise reduction and checking levels and curves. One of my last Christmas photos.
January 5th, 2012
nothing special, but it is SOOC :)
January 5th, 2012
I'm sorry that this is strictly cheating as this pic was taken a while back but I am not going to be able to find these roses again to get another picture like this! No editing apart from a little cropping :-)

January 5th, 2012
Ok this is my first competition.
I select that one, as I, above all, took it thanks to all the good advice of the community.

January 5th, 2012
Here is my photo-All I did was add my watermark...I liked the shot.

January 5th, 2012
Loved the colours in this SOOC:
January 6th, 2012

This picture was fun because it actually was not taken at night. I took this in the early evening when the sun was starting to set. I put my camera into complete manual mode and messed with the aperture/shutter speed settings until I was able to make the sky look dark. I'm quite pleased with the end result. :)
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I'm new here.. could not even figure out how to post a photo in a discussion thread. :) well it's worth a try though.

January 6th, 2012
@shoot4art And it worked.. thanks!
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I have to admit I love ps, all the creative things to do. This honestly those was a SOOC that I loved!
January 6th, 2012
my camera has effects promise!
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January 7th, 2012
@shyanewiegers I posted my pic before I read all the posts.....just saw signature was OK, then a couple later not OK. Will remember that for next time. The shot I posted is otherwise SOOC, took ages to get with me standing so close to his face!!
January 7th, 2012
Click on pic to read explanation of how I did this with just the (very long!) click of a shutter!
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I have resized for uploading and rotated 90 degrees in a couple of cases, but I can do that in camera, but no tweaking straight, colour curves adjustment or anything else that I'd like to have done.



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On a Beautiful Day
this was taken on an unseasonably warm day for our area!
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I am new here, too, but soooo super excited about Project 365 (my first year doing it) and this SOOC challenge. I have NO idea how to use PhotoShop and just today discovered Picnik, so I have been a long time fan of SOOC photography. I think it is wonderful how many great shots can come without editing!

I've been trying to play around with panning. I was excited this shot came out so well. I did crop it just slightly to take off the skyline.


I also love close up shots! This is my wood stove - toasty!


I also love to read and teach Shakespeare. I tried hard to get just the famous quote in focus. Took me several tries, but I got it! :)


I really LOVE looking at all the amazing things you can do with your cameras. Makes me realize I have to play around with more settings on my DSLR.
January 8th, 2012
I nearly always shoot SOOC and this week was no exception. This was one of my favorites.

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@shyanewiegers Hi Shyane, trying to post a pic here - the latest from my project but cant work out how? I've copied and pasted the URL but that doesn't work. Help! :-)
January 8th, 2012
@andym hi andy! when you look at your pictures, there should be a place on the right side near the bottom, it will say share. copy the code in the box, and then you can paste it here and it will show up :)
January 8th, 2012
Today is the last day of sooc week guyss! :( hope you had fun and gained something out of it! just thought i would share some of the photos i got this week:



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January 9th, 2012
This "abstract" is sooc and is of my pc's screensaver. It reminds me of a sailboat.
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@shyanewiegers Are you going to start a new thread so we can post what we think is our best sooc picture from last week? I really enjoyed doing it although it got more difficult as the week went on, it did help me learn more about my camera. Thanks for this theme suggestion.
January 9th, 2012
Yes in an hour! I'm in class right now :)@louisefrance
January 9th, 2012
@louisefrance the thread is up :)
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