After I'd cleaned and fettled the motorbike this afternoon, I decided to take a run out and ended up in the town of Ploërmel which was rather like a ghost town... the effects of the fuel shortages no doubt. I was happy to spot this pair of ladies unwittingly providing a picture opportunity for me.
I would have liked to have cropped this top and bottom a little but, as usual, the image is SOOC and is part of my ongoing OCOLOY project - you can read more about it in my profile.
Great shot. Love the content, framing and timing, excellent in every way --- but it mystifies e why anybody would willingly publish an unfinished picture as a sacrifice on the altar of 'SOOC'. Sorry Richard, I really do like your work but have little patience with 'camera club' fads and this shot deserves a FAV for bravery!
@wordpixman Think it's a matter of choice, Richard chooses to finish the image in the camera, I'm shooting an OCOLOY too, I'm not cropping but I will do some minimal post processing (as I would have done in a dark room). It's making me work a little harder, think a little more about framing etc. Like any 365, it's a personal choice and journey with personal aims and goals.
Great street shot. Like the comment controversy of cropping. I prefer this uncropped - it is how you would spot it if you were in the street rather than a finished portrait. Fav
@davejf ... I absolutely agree with the concept of personal choice and have long been an admirer of Richards's work, but hat surely does not forbid me to ask why an exercise of undoubted merit as a training exercise should sometimes be seen as an essential part of everyday existence. I welcome your comment and am happy to admit that my personal choice is NEVER to publish a picture without doing everything within my power to squeeze the last drop of juice out of it, but readily accept that others may find my efforts not to their taste, but all such criticism is valuable - as I had to learn in a role which involved accepting or rejecting the work of some of the best in the business.
I welcome your intervention and thank you kindly, as well as offering my apologies to Rochard if my comments were taken as a personal criticism.
Excellent street shot - I admire your talent shooting OCOLOY.
Well done.
I read your profile and quite like the attitude you have taken re: clogging up everyone's home page with personal photos meant for family and friends.
You say you post them in restricted?
Is there a way that family and friends who are not members of 365 can have access to those pictures on a daily basis without clogging up everyone's homepage?
Can I post them restricted and then open it up public on the same day to eliminate chances of clogging up homepage?
This is A FAV, BTW.
@davejf@wordpixman I was intending to reply to your comments Arthur - I've been over-occupied the last two days - but I see that in the meantime you have started a discussion thread on the subject of SOOC, so I've replied there.
It actually hurts to publish an 'unfinished' photo and that is precisely the point of my project this year! Some of the time, if the picture is 'unfinished', it is because I didn't take enough care at the point of capture... that can be remedied in the future! Other times - and this image is a case in point - the physical properties of the lens, image format, etc, makes it impossible to obtain an ideal image at the point of capture and therefore requires post processing intervention to achieve that worthy goal.
The merit of my personal project for this year lies not in the quality of the images produced but rather in the learning that each image provides.
@vignouse Thank you Richard, I can best start my response by quoting from your closing line " ... not in the quality of the images produced but rather in the learning that each image provides"
The quality of this image is, as I hope was indicated in my original comment, beyond question, and I do believe that this discussion has also served the learning process in searching for an understanding of attitudes, and am happy to note in the closing part of of your main paragraph contains exactly the conclusion I wished to make, so there is clearly not an iota of difference between us.
Thank you very much also for your valuable input to the discussion page, where I have posted a fuller response..
@yrhenwr ... Thank you for your interest but please let us not turn this exchange of views into a slanging match. I have no idea which 'side' you are on - if indeed there are 'sides' - but I respect Richard's views and his right to express them and yours to disagree, and have seen nothing to suggest that the feeling is other than entirely mutual.
@wordpixman 365 is all about sharing and learning.. so much better for others if they can see your mistakes as well as your successes. This encourages a developmental attitude in all of us.
@yrhenwr .. Thank you so much for agreeing with me; I continue to learn from the wisdom of others but rather feared on tis occasion that you might be looking for a fight! Welcome to my lifelong campaign of learning from our own mistakes and listening to the opinions of others.
My apologies again, Richard @vignouse for this further interruption.
@yrhenwr You're always welcome here... I can almost smell the acrid odour of irony in your last comment to Arthur! Have you read his separate thread on the subject of SOOC?
I welcome your intervention and thank you kindly, as well as offering my apologies to Rochard if my comments were taken as a personal criticism.
Well done.
I read your profile and quite like the attitude you have taken re: clogging up everyone's home page with personal photos meant for family and friends.
You say you post them in restricted?
Is there a way that family and friends who are not members of 365 can have access to those pictures on a daily basis without clogging up everyone's homepage?
Can I post them restricted and then open it up public on the same day to eliminate chances of clogging up homepage?
This is A FAV, BTW.
I love, I 'm sure they expected you to take their picture !
the lines are sleek and black and white highlights topics .
It actually hurts to publish an 'unfinished' photo and that is precisely the point of my project this year! Some of the time, if the picture is 'unfinished', it is because I didn't take enough care at the point of capture... that can be remedied in the future! Other times - and this image is a case in point - the physical properties of the lens, image format, etc, makes it impossible to obtain an ideal image at the point of capture and therefore requires post processing intervention to achieve that worthy goal.
The merit of my personal project for this year lies not in the quality of the images produced but rather in the learning that each image provides.
The quality of this image is, as I hope was indicated in my original comment, beyond question, and I do believe that this discussion has also served the learning process in searching for an understanding of attitudes, and am happy to note in the closing part of of your main paragraph contains exactly the conclusion I wished to make, so there is clearly not an iota of difference between us.
Thank you very much also for your valuable input to the discussion page, where I have posted a fuller response..
My apologies again, Richard @vignouse for this further interruption.
@vignouse Sorry for barging in Richard..