I just saw a second-hand Canon 7D body for about 900 $ only, in excellent condition and 170 000 shots. The owner lives in my city, so if I want to buy it I can see the camera! I am so excited, but I need an advice!
This is my dream camera, of course I would prefer a new one, but I can't afford it right now. I think this price is very good, the shots are a lot, but in the advertisement he says the camera works with no remarks. And I can easily test it! So, I want to ask you, would you buy it if you were in my shoes? I want it so much, but I'm affraid a bit... I think I need more courage :)
you can buy one on ebay for 880 bucks with on 22,000 clicks. 170,000 is a lot. I dont know how many clicks the 7d is rated for but im sure a shutter replacement would set you back 200-300 bucks should it go bad. I would never buy a used camera with more then 30 or 40,000 clicks personally. There are tons of deals out there.
Sounds like a deal try haggle it down 170,000 is very high though!! but if you can bring it down it might be worth a punt ask if you can take it out for the day...try all the settings etc....make sure you download the pictures and look closely for flaws...scrap that some googling later the cannon 7d is rated for 150.000!!!!! so unless it has been replaced stay clear.....
Hi Velina, I have been looking at Canon 7D on ebay for about two weeks now and got lucky with one for $885 yesterday. As Kevin @soia said, there is a lot of deals out there if you are patient. They rarely go for under $900, but once in a while there is that one that nobody looks at.Mine was "Buy It Now" for higher price, but seller just posted and accepted my offer. I wouldn't but one with 170000, because sooner or later there is a high chance you would need to replace the shutter, and that can be expensive. If you want it to last for next few years without investing in it, I would keep looking. Good Luck!
@markjohnstone Thank you, Mark, for checking out that canon 7d is rated for 150.000, I wasn't aware! I think it's pretty dangerous to buy a camera with shots more than that.
@zuzana Thanks a lot, Zuzana, for sharing your experience and thoughts here. Did you buy a second-hand 7D? How many shots does it have? You are absolutely right that there is a big chance I would have to invest more in some years ahead, since it has 170k shots... I think I will wait and search for other offers, it's just that I wasn't aware canon 7d is rated for 150.000 shutters.
@velina Have you tried looking at SLRHut - they're based in the US, I've just ordered a new 7D body - it was the best deal I could find at £699, which I think is only a few hundred $ more than you are thinking of paying for a used model.
wow, that's a shot every 15 minutes for 5 years... that's one sore trigger finger. I took 16,000 shots over a 3 year period when I lived in PNG and I thought that was a little obsessive. The owner of this beast must definitely be a professional and (probably has more than one camera body on the go) that is a well used mechanical device.
Bear in mind that a broken shutter isn't the end of a camera. Canon charge around $250 US to replace a crop-sensor DSLR shutter, so it's generally worth it unless the camera is very old.
I certainly wouldn't pay close to $900 US for one with that many actuations though -- the camera will generally have a very high level of wear, independent from the shutter, and $900 is pretty much top dollar for a second-hand body-only 7D. There's one on the POTN forums being sold for $895 with 6000 actuations.
Note that shutter life estimations are a Mean Time Between Failures rating, and there's nothing to say your shutter will fail when you reach the estimation. Many fail well before that rating, many fail well after. Shutter failures generally fall on a bathtub curve.
There's a database with user-submitted shutter life ratings here:
Some of the data looks invalid, but there do seem to be a couple of probably-genuine users with 7Ds that have over 2 million shutter actuations and are still working, as well as some that have failed with under 10,000 actuations.
@cheribug@onie I don't have a Nikon but I believe they embed the shutter count in the EXIF data. Try uploading an unmodified image from the camera to one of these sites:
For other manufacturers, Google is your friend! (Note that most non-DSLRs don't record shutter actuations and usually have much simpler shutter mechanisms)
@velina - Velina, one question, you say that the owner of this camera lives in your city, have you emailed him to ask if the shot-count is legit. Normally when you are trying to sell something, you advertise the good features of the sale. By admitting that this camera has fired off 170,000 shots is not a great selling point, so perhaps this is a typo?
@bobfoto Thanks, Jason, but it's not a typo. I asked him if he has made any replacement in the shutter system by now. He answered with "no" and also that his previous camera had 240000 shots and no problems:)
@velina - Holy smokes. Wonder what this guy takes photos of? That's 240 + 170, so what 410,000 photos! If they're both 7Ds then they're only 3 or 4 years old.
Wonder how he picks up his fork to eat his dinner... he'd have to put the camera down sometime!!!
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@zuzana Thanks a lot, Zuzana, for sharing your experience and thoughts here. Did you buy a second-hand 7D? How many shots does it have? You are absolutely right that there is a big chance I would have to invest more in some years ahead, since it has 170k shots... I think I will wait and search for other offers, it's just that I wasn't aware canon 7d is rated for 150.000 shutters.
I certainly wouldn't pay close to $900 US for one with that many actuations though -- the camera will generally have a very high level of wear, independent from the shutter, and $900 is pretty much top dollar for a second-hand body-only 7D. There's one on the POTN forums being sold for $895 with 6000 actuations.
Note that shutter life estimations are a Mean Time Between Failures rating, and there's nothing to say your shutter will fail when you reach the estimation. Many fail well before that rating, many fail well after. Shutter failures generally fall on a bathtub curve.
There's a database with user-submitted shutter life ratings here:
http://olegkikin.com/shutterlife/
Some of the data looks invalid, but there do seem to be a couple of probably-genuine users with 7Ds that have over 2 million shutter actuations and are still working, as well as some that have failed with under 10,000 actuations.
Thanks for asking that...I was wondering the same thing. I have a NikonD1500
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http://www.shutteractuations.com/
http://www.nikonshuttercount.com/
Canon users can use EOSInfo on Windows or 40DShutterCount on Mac to check:
http://astrojargon.net/EOSInfo.aspx
http://astrojargon.net/40DShutterCount.aspx
For other manufacturers, Google is your friend! (Note that most non-DSLRs don't record shutter actuations and usually have much simpler shutter mechanisms)
Thanks very much for that Alexis. Will go check it out
that worked a treat. I only got the camera this year, and have 4616. The camera is good for 100,000
@bobfoto @abirkill Thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge!
I am going to wait for a while until I upgrade:)
Just a thought.
Wonder how he picks up his fork to eat his dinner... he'd have to put the camera down sometime!!!