@onewing Thank you for your comment and Fav Babs as always they are both appreciated, I get lots of practice and may be eventually I get a good one, lol:)
@stiggle Thank you for your interesting comment Anja, I have an old Miops splash trigger fired by an app on my moble phone, linked to my camera and a remote speedlight flash, its an old system not as good as the current unit still more a case of trial and error:)