Congratulations Lesley @kiwichick with your winning photo:
@myhrhelper has selected me to host the next challenge. Thanks for that! Hope I can help you all with this.
Do some of the camera settings intimidate you? Do you want to learn how to develop your photography skills and learn how to use your camera effectively without always going back to the “auto” function? These challenges are for you!
This week’s challenge is: PANNING
Explanation: Panning is following a moving object with your camera and getting the result in one photo. The moving object should be sharp, and the fore- and background blurred.
This is a challenge you really can do only with a dSLR, because of two reasons:
1] you need a fast autofocus;
2] you may not have a shutter delay; you know, that annoying thing that you want to photograph a special moment, but when you press the button, the photo only comes a second later.
What settings should you use?
3] Your camera probably can shoot about 5 photos per second. Select the setting for that: burst or continuous high speed mode.
4] Select AI mode (Canon) or continuous focus (Nikon). Your camera will keep focussing for each shot, though you just keep the shutter button down. In other settings he just focusses once when you press the button.
5] Exposure? That all depends, though the exposure time should be longer than in normal situations. You want to register movement and so you don't want to freeze the situation. But for an express train passing by, you need other settings than a kid on a bike. The train will even get a blurred background with 1/60 second, the kid maybe needs 1/30. Anyhow, select shutter speed priority, start with 1/50 and try if you should change it into slower or faster. The aperture is not that important here and will be automatically selected when you select the exposure time.
5] The closer the subject, the more difficult you make it. Why? Because the focal distance changes extremely fast when shooting a train passing by on 4 meters distance. On the other side: when photographing a speedboat at 200 meters, you will have difficulty to get even some blur.
6] You might also want to see my advanced tip.
Experienced photographers who are knowledgeable in this particular setting are encouraged to offer “kind and constructive” suggestions on the posted entries. Those entering this challenge want to learn and improve.
This challenge starts today, and ends Monday, 25 June 07:00am Zulu time ) All photos must be taken during these dates to be considered. TAG YOUR PHOTO CSC-7 AND post your picture in this thread to receive feedback from other experienced photographers specific to this challenge.
Voting will take place Tuesday, 26st (and remain open 24 hours) and the winner will be announced 27th. The winner of the challenge will select an experienced photographer to host a new challenge. It is the winner’s option on who they want to host the next challenge; it may be someone they follow whose work they admire, or someone who is active offering suggestions on previous CSC challenges. The winner may also select an experienced photographer for the list of photographers who have agreed to host future challenges as another option.: Here is the link to that list
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I'm sure that if you can switch to MF or lock a pre-focus on auto, you can still participate. dSLR's help out a lot for sure though. You just have to be able to focus on the spot(plane) that the object is on and keep that focus while panning.
@djepie Jaap
Could you give everyone an idea of what aperture "f" setting works best (range) and what Shutter speed setting typically works best so we have an idea what it should be?
Could this challenge be done using "S" for Shutter speed priority and let the aperture be automatic as an option for anyone who has not done a lot of settings yet?
This sounds like a fun challenge!!! Thank you Jaap!
@gurry Since we have debated this outside fully to me saying you are right, I deleted my comments here, but did not want you to look crazy on talking to me about cameras :). But I obviously will go grab my camera and sit on Mt Olympus and cry myself to sleep that I cannot fit in on 365 by having my elitist light as air dslr.
@brumbe DSLRs are heavy. Maybe you're thinking about Leica's or the Fuji X-Pro1. Anyways, Shades already won -- without even taking a picture! -- so this is all a moot point.
@gurry Olympus E-620 ask @5unflow3r she has seen the lightness of the camera with settings and interchangeable lenses and the fancy stuff. Just no video. how heavy is your camera?
@shadesofgrey Thanks for your comment. The M-setting is the other way to try panning indeed. The thing is, that only on one spot it will be sharp, and with fast autofocus, ther are more shots that might be right. I am very interested in the results and whether people use M of autofocus.
@djepie Thank you for the explanation (and the links) it helps alot!
I have never paid much attention (since I didn't know what they meant) to the different focus settings so far so that will also be a new one to use Yeah!!!
When I was investigating panning a few weeks ago, i came across this entertaining tutorial on YouTube: http://youtu.be/4PdAvGjC_kc
I found the best settings varied depending on the speed of, and my distance to, the moving subject.
@djepie I agree about the MF vs AF for panning. However it seemed like people might take your advice as a hard and fast rule...just wanted to point out that it can(albiet with more work)be done with MF.
@gurry So figuring out how to best use different settings in certain situations cannot be part of the camera settings challenge? Hmmm... seems to me that it is about the same as assigning a setting or setting combo and figuring out which situations those settings work best for. But I am sure I am not nearly as smart as you are, so I am obviously wrong about this. You remind me very much of someone I know who believes there are two ways to do everything... her way and the wrong way.
Thank you so much for hosting this challenge, @djepie! I have been enjoying your helpful feedback in the previous challenges and was hoping you would host one soon =) --> I am in and I don't care whether it is specifically about settings or situations - I just want to learn new stuff - yay! And I have tried this before but wasn't too successful. Just need to find a good spot now I reckon.
Just one thing: Would you recommend the Tv half-automatic mode for this challenge on a Canon? That's what I used when I tried last time.
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@traeumerlein87 Indeed the Tv seems to work the best in this situation. And when you follow the tips in my text I hope you will succeed! I may help when you start pressing the button earlier than necessary and stop pressing it later than necessary. This way in the most important time frame you can pay full attention in exactly following the moving object in correct speed. Good luck & have fun!
@bentcherry Yeah! That a good example. Perfect focus on the eye, including light spot in it, and a blurred background. Good dog portrait. If you have time and chance, it might also be great to make a photo of the full dog, so you can also see his/her legs moving and head 'frozen'. Good start of you project! Welcome & enjoy!
@5unflow3r Nice shot. You see that even with 1/80 you can have motion blur. The difficulty in this situation is that the moving object is not only passing by, but also moves away from the lens. Therefore it's not possible to get the person sharp and the background blurred, though you almost succeeded in this.
Here's one I prepared earlier! (About a year ago, to be exact.) Actually, it's my only panning shot in my entiere project, and I have to say it was a complete and utter fluke. xD
@pocketmouse Okay, maybe fluke, but great shot. The background was blurred in a great way with interesting colors. 1/40 seconds appearently works perfect here.
@pocketmouse That's not a fluke. Panning is more of a technique. If you follow the subject with your camera properly, it works. You did a great job following the bird, with a nice steady hand. Well done! You must've hit the soaring phase of this flight too, which totally worked in your favor. :-)
@djepie ok but why are both your train and your car blurry? Good panning can still have parts of the subject blurry. For example, a running dog can have blurred legs and that's fine. Trying to figure out how large subjects w/o moving parts are acceptable blurred. I'm not criticizing; I'm am trying to understand this.
@gurry You cannot even begin to know how much I wish I were a grandma and how I hurt for my daughter who wants desperately to make me one, so you can't know how much it hurts to see that in print. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you would not intentionally hurt someone that much... Though given your penchant for what you call sarcasm (and I call nit-picking meanness) I am not sure but what I am being overly kind to you in this.
I would like to clarify - For it to be an acceptable challenge a technique that you use your camera to achieve (not photo shop), and certain adjustments and/or settings on your camera are needed is fully acceptable for these challenges.
In the case of this particular challenge the idea is to put it on a fast shutter speed, and other camera settings to be able to accomplish this. I will be able to take my camera out of "auto" and apply a setting. In order to learn how to do a panning shot I first need to figure out how to set up my camera the right way. Being able to achieve a specific technique or result is a fun way to accomplish this. I LOVE this challenge - Thank you Jaap!!
So far every challenge we have had has been fantastic! Each challenge I have learned something new and in most cases I thought "oh this is going to be hard" so I was able to stretch myself and learn something which is the goal.
Let's all please keep the conversations friendly and encouraging on these challenges. Please do offer kind and constructive critiques of photo's posted for the challenge as a means to help those posting.
Thank you everyone who participates either as someone trying to learn or kindly helping someone else try to learn.
@marilyn Marilyn, I don't know anything about you, so don't think that this was some incisive comment about some familial issue that I know nothing about. I called you grandma because you look like one in your picture, and because you're acting like an oversensitive senile nitwit.
@gurry Gary please, let's keep this post for the purpose intended. I really don't want it to be a battle ground for anything else. Please remove that comment from this post.
If anyone has communication other than specific to this challenge, helping people with their camera skills and requesting help as it relates specifically to the challenge please post them somewhere else.
@gurry Well you, young whippersnapper, are acting like a very rude young man and deserve a good beating with my cane... If only I could drag my overly sensitive old self out of my wheelchair and gather my senile wits about me enough to accomplish it! :) As to being sarcastic, I am right there with the best of them, but when I feel someone may have misunderstood sarcasm for rudeness, as can happen so easily in print, I actually identify it as sarcasm, or at least an attempt at sarcasm and apologize. Us old folks that are about ready for the home learned civility and courtesy along with sarcasm and wit back in the olden days. As for the grandma comment and how much it hurt, I didn't expect that you would have any idea about that, but my point was that you never know how hurtful a random comment can be even if you just meant it to be sarcastic. I believe that these comments will not really mean anything to you because I get the feeling that it is exactly as I stated in my first comment... your way or the wrong way, and for you, mine is the wrong way. But I feel better for having explained to you that while I love sarcasm, I also value the feelings of those around me and I hope that sarcasm will live on strong in you and in me, but that you may also be willing to at least give my thoughts here some serious consideration. And tanks for at least reading this, Gary... :)
@gurry Please look for another place where you can go with your sarcasme and impolite comments. As you can see, people come here to help each other and get being insulted. Please stop and enjoy photography.
@Scrivna Hey Ross! Glad you made it to the party. I knew it was only a matter of time until someone reeled you in unnecessarily, with cries of foul play and unsportsmanlike conduct and bedwetting, and all that noise.
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I highly doubt Paula or Shades are the least bit offended with anything I said, so if our good friend Mr. Meijer wants to weigh in on a subthread of his discussion that does not involve him, I can't very well keep him from poking his nose where it wasn't invited.
Is he offended with my comment regarding the blatant truth that this challenge has been completely misconstrued? Well, if so, then maybe he should have given his brief a bit more thought. Poor execution is poor execution, and the last thing I'd like to see is my fellow photographer be led astray by misdirection.
Moving along. As you can see, after a brief spat, Marilyn and I have made amends. God is in His heaven, Pippa Passes, etc. etc. What can I say -- she's a doll, that one! (Hey gram! ;)
And while I was mid-conversation with my new grandmother, Kathy told me to stop talking, which I think is rude, so while you're here, please reprimand her as well. I would very much appreciate it.
Next time someone writes something off subject or off color, I'll be sure to e-mail you about it so you can come set things straight. Thanks, mate.
@5unflow3r your photo looks great and at least you went out and tried. @djepie since you are going to judge why are you adding critiques onto photos. There is also more than one way to pan and does not have to add big vehicles that are a tad blurry in your examples. You also irked me a bit by only including instructions for canon or nikon, really there is more than one way to skin a cat with only two knives. I like my olympus but already felt put off. @shades ditto on it being more technique and not just one setting
@marilyn I do not think anyone was trying to bring up such a tough subject for you on purpose. @gurry I think you and Marilyn have reached a peaceful existence. @myhrhelper for some reason the fact that you created a challenge where you select people you deem good enough to tell others what to do but do not allow the winners to have any input in the challenge is a bit offensive. What if someone thinks they have a really great setting that works out all the time, but it is not up to your taste.
@brumbe
My intent was to have the winners have an input.
You make a good point to me and yes if the winner has a really great setting that works out for them - moving forward we should allow it.
Originally I thought many of us are trying to learn and were not at a level to offer a challenge, but I can clearly see I was wrong. Even the very first winner Elke could have hosted one since she is a very good photographer. I personally am not at that level yet (I hope to be some day), so just because I'm not doesn't mean others are not.
There really is no particular taste that I have - I just want to learn ways to use my camera without using auto. I can also see that many of these techniques have different settings alternatives of getting the same/similar results. I do think it should be up to whoever is hosting the challenge to decide what the purpose of that particular setting is.
It is ok for the host of the challenge to offer critiques to the photos that is what is encouraged AND other photographers to do that as well.
It is also ok for others to disagree with the critiques and/or offer other ways of doing it. I've seen some of these challenges go like that and which ever method I try I'm learning which is good.
@Scrivna@gurry neither Gary or Shades offended me in the least and I actually deleted a comment on a different shooting style when Gary pointed out that it lead to more confusion.
@brumbe Hi Paula. In fact I did't know if I am the one who am gonne judge, I thought there was a voting, but maybe I'm wrong. Therefore I just gave tips and comments.
It is not my intention to only support Nikon and Canon users! It's just that I know the settings for Canon and search for the settings for it's biggest competitor. I know great photographers with a Sony or Olympus. so, if you can help people with Olympus settings, great!
And you are right my examples are not perfect at all. They are just examples. I had to launch this csc-7 very quickly, so I had no time to make the shots I had in mind.
My words are not words that have all truth! Therefore I also agreed with @shadesofgrey that also MF could help people.
Hope I made something clear and I removed some misunderstandings?
Okay guys, time for a new start :-) !! Everyone did explain him-/herself.
Now let's trust each other and let's enjoy photography and 365 together!
Hope to see many more panning photos!
I'm happy this argumentative thread got a new start. I am enjoying these challenges - no matter whether they are concerning camera settings only or just inspire me to try something new.
@djepie Thanks again for preparing this in no time - I think all participants highly appreciate your efforts. Hope the rest of the week goes smoothly and you won't regret having agreed to host =)
@myhrhelper Thanks for all your efforts in keeping this alive, Kathy. I thoroughly enjoy participating every time I get the chance.
Thanks Lisa for your supportive words. Love the photo. The dark tones, the black car and the contrast with the car lights. 1/60 but still enough blur in the background to suggest movement and fast enough to get a very sharp car and to show what is the environment the car is dryving through. Good panning example!
@djepie Thank you for the input! I will try my best but unfortunately she is staying with a friend at the moment... I am really enjoying the project so far and look forward to the coming weeks and months.
Here is my first panning shots. I parked my tripod right on a fairly busy street and a lot of people looked like they wondered why I was taking their picture.
I tried difference shutter speeds from 1/20 - 1/100.
Wasn't sure exactly what the results were but I started at the 1/50 and I think that was about right. Feedback please.
@myhrhelper Yes, you made it! Congrats on this pic. Even with a tripod, you really try to get the best! Great: the light, the yellow line, the blurred quiet background, scooter almost frozen, spokes invisible.
ADVANCED TIP:
1] Tripod users never should use the camera/lens stabilizer. A stabilizer tries to compensate vibrations by vibrate too, just in a different way. When you use a tripod, you have no vibrations and so the camera vibrations blur you photo! I admit I also forget more than once to switch it off.
All brands have stabilizers, they just all give it an other name. I checked for 4 brands. Canon has IS lensen, Nikon VR lenses, Sony steady shot lenses and Olympus has in-camera stabilizer. Just check your documentation if you don't know if you have a stabilizer and/or how to turn it off.
2] For panning you should turn off your stabilizer too. The vibrations the camera detects, is on purpose panning, which he'll try to compensate. Just try with and without and share your experiences!
There are even lenses with panning options. I know my Canon tele has a stabilizer mode 1 and 2. Mode 1 is two axis, so the standard mode. Mode 2 only correct vertical vibrations, so perfect for panning. Just check your camera/lens!
I didn't say it would be an easy challenge, did I ;-)
Enjoy and share your knowledge and experience!
@djepie Thank you Jaap I appreciate the feedback and the additional tips.
FYI - I noticed my lens has two switches (never did read the paperwork that came with the lens) 1) auto / manual 2) VR on/off
I always wondered why someone would have it turned off now I learned about that as well! Thank you Jaap
This is my first attempt at panning - any tips - may try again if i get time
It was shot on a canon 550d camera with 50mm fixed focal lens - I had autofocus and image stablisation on - i used Tv mode iso 100 shutter speed 1/100 and aperature of f5.6
@mortisa Isn't it great for a first attempt?! The Mini Cooper is popular; seconds one in this contest. Guess he drove fast, because even with 1/100 there is blur. With a longer exposure time the background would have been blurred more en thereby more quiet, plus the spokes would be more blurred. Anyhow, nice shot. Everybody who tried this knows how difficult this is.
A difficult challenge for me, as I found that if I slowed down my shutter speed enough to show movement I ended up with over-exposed photos...even with my apperature at it's smallest. I probably could have used a monopod for this, also.
@djepie Thanks for the tip. I did not shut my VR off. Which seems quite logical, now. Unfortunately, I read your tip after the fact, but I will try to remember in the future.
@tigerdreamer Panning with 1/100. Maybe next time a bit longer exposure, but even now you have the effect that we were looking for: sharp object, blurred background. Even with a (large) compact camera, respect!
@aurorajane The carousel is great! You had a perfect focus and I bet you made a lot of shot before you finally get this amazing photo. The smile on the lady's face! Probably you can even improve this photo by make it a bit lighter in the processing. But that's a side issue, you posted a great one for the challenge.
Also nice to see that panning even can be used with slow movements, like this walking woman on the second photo.
@djepie Thank you so much, yep plenty of pre-ambles .... 100's :) I value your comments on how to improve, they are priceless - So, should I have changed the ISO for the lighting or is post processing best in these instances?
This challenge has been very stimulating and Sydney was so full of opportunities, I plan on going back there next weekend. This type of photography can be quite addictive - already planning locations and subject types!!
@djepie Thanks for the encouragement, and the advise you so freely share. It would be great if everyone knowledgable gave productive critique so freely.
I do think that I had my ISO at 100. I did discover today that I had my white balance set for auto, maybe it should have been set for bright sunlight. The other possibility is that I was picking up a reflection that I was unaware of from somewhere. I just don't know for sure.
@debrac The wash out happened when I took the shutter speed down too low for the aperture and ISO settings. I played with this a lot with the 70-300mm and 50mm lenses, and also tried an adjustable ND filter. As @djepie mentions in the hints there are several variables that come into play but the Sun today was very bright so over-exposure was certainly and issue.
1/30 f9 100iso hand held used manual mode & focus
This is very tricky, tried it on a few cars but ony got two shots that may have passed for a panning shot.
@mikegifford It's quite clear you are an advanced photographer. Great shot. The contrast not only in sharp-blurred but also in the color (white/black/blue against the dust color background. I wonder how fast this man goes, but the effect is amazing. 1/40 second. Did you use manual focus and waited till he passed by or this you use follow focus?
@wenbow Great effect isn't it?! So completely different from a normal shot on which he would have been 'frozen', especially in on a sunny day like you had.
@debrac Thanks for your feedback too. It's a pleasure for me to share knowledge and experience on a forum like this. You indeed used ISO100 and even f/36 aperture; you can see this on the EXIF link next to the 365 photo. So there were no more tricks to reduce the light. Or two: wait till the sun is less bright or use grey filter for your lens to reduce the light. I don't have these filters either, but some photographers use them also for making waterfall photos with long exposure times. In those situations you also need to reduce the light.
@aurorajane Even addictive? Then I hope to see more! I don't know if a higher ISO would have helped. Usually the camera sets everything to the correct settings, except what you changed yourself (in this case the exposure time). The best is to check the histogram on your camera (should to another csc on this subject!). The graphic should be from the very left to the very right. When you see a histogram with the 'mountain' in the left part, you can try to use EV+ for extra exposure/light. See http://jaapmeijer.com/images/2012/smitha.JPG I made for another 365 photographer for whom I modified some pics.
The 4,5 days are almost over already. 12 hours to post your photos for csc-7. As mentioned in my intro text the challenge will end Monday, 25 June 07:00am Zulu time.
@djepie Thanks - for this project I used all manual settings and hand held, I figured it was the best way to learn. The histogram is another story - I never use it because I haven't got my head around it, so I keep my display mode basic. But now that you have given me the heads up..... I might have to reconsider it's purpose :) (slowly) Cheers and Thanks
Ok, I just looked through all of the attempts so far and there are some I really like. I tried to get my daughter to run in the yard, but I think I need a faster subject.
@djepie Thanks for introducing this, I have been wanting to try panning & had no idea how to go about it. Doing it manually was a bit of a task, I might give the tv mode a try to see if that's easier. It took me a while to get the right aperture at the slow shutter speed & timing the shot puzzled me the most
@djepie Hope you'll take a look at my first try and give some advice! I appreciate everything I've read and all of the guidance you've offered. Definitely have more work to do, but this was fun already. I agree with Ramona, though. . .I'm going to go through the thread much more carefully and try to ramp up the learning! Thank you very much for what is obviously volunteer time helping us all out.
@djepie Many thanks for the comments. I know this corner well and I selected it because I knew riders would be going at a nice speed (most between 17-25 mph). I could see up the road to the right to get prepared to shoot. All my shots were on a monopod with your recommended Nikon AF-C and high speed (Ch) burst mode. I selected the 70-300mm VR lens since I thought I would need something around 100mm to get the desired shot. I left the VR on since I had to swing the monopod and dip it as the riders went from my right-to-left down the sloping right turn (their right while on the bike). I tried several shutter speeds from 1/15 up to 1/60 sec. At the slower speeds everything was overexposed since the Sun was out in full force. Best results were at 1/40 sec, 200 ISO which turned out to be f/32 with a -2/3 exposure bias.
This was a really good exercise since I had only played with panning briefly without any real interest maybe 12 months ago. Now with some more experience I knew what to try and make adjustments as I saw the results between attempts. I also tried an adjustable ND filter when I went back to my car, and I changed locations. The results were good but the background had some trees which I thought were distracting.
Many thanks again and I'm very interested in following your posts and suggestions.
This was my first try the other day, I was going to try for something better this weekend, but there is a lot going on right now, and I don't know if I will get the chance. Thought this was an ok first attempt.
@la_photographic It's really difficult to get the moving object sharp. Your photo gives a motion effect, but unfortunately the car is blurred too. Maybe a retry possible later? I know by experience that it needs a lot of shot to finally get a sharp one. So don't give up!
@lyno Hi Lyn. Honestly first panning pic?! So beautiful, what comments and advice should I give. The car is perfectly sharp, the background blurred. It's a pity you removed the EXIF info.
@tigerdreamer I think you used the longest exposure time of all csc-7 photos (1/20). And that pays off. What an effect! The sharp focus on the car. Everything else has been blurred to color bars / layers.
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Only a compact here, and that won't be easy.
Could you give everyone an idea of what aperture "f" setting works best (range) and what Shutter speed setting typically works best so we have an idea what it should be?
Could this challenge be done using "S" for Shutter speed priority and let the aperture be automatic as an option for anyone who has not done a lot of settings yet?
This sounds like a fun challenge!!! Thank you Jaap!
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Actually, it's not so bad. Maybe two or three pounds. But with a lens that's also two or three pounds? Cinderblock.
Compared to a P&S though? It's way heavy.
I have never paid much attention (since I didn't know what they meant) to the different focus settings so far so that will also be a new one to use Yeah!!!
I am very excited to try this!
I found the best settings varied depending on the speed of, and my distance to, the moving subject.
Just one thing: Would you recommend the Tv half-automatic mode for this challenge on a Canon? That's what I used when I tried last time.
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In the case of this particular challenge the idea is to put it on a fast shutter speed, and other camera settings to be able to accomplish this. I will be able to take my camera out of "auto" and apply a setting. In order to learn how to do a panning shot I first need to figure out how to set up my camera the right way. Being able to achieve a specific technique or result is a fun way to accomplish this. I LOVE this challenge - Thank you Jaap!!
So far every challenge we have had has been fantastic! Each challenge I have learned something new and in most cases I thought "oh this is going to be hard" so I was able to stretch myself and learn something which is the goal.
Let's all please keep the conversations friendly and encouraging on these challenges. Please do offer kind and constructive critiques of photo's posted for the challenge as a means to help those posting.
Thank you everyone who participates either as someone trying to learn or kindly helping someone else try to learn.
If anyone has communication other than specific to this challenge, helping people with their camera skills and requesting help as it relates specifically to the challenge please post them somewhere else.
Thanks
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I highly doubt Paula or Shades are the least bit offended with anything I said, so if our good friend Mr. Meijer wants to weigh in on a subthread of his discussion that does not involve him, I can't very well keep him from poking his nose where it wasn't invited.
Is he offended with my comment regarding the blatant truth that this challenge has been completely misconstrued? Well, if so, then maybe he should have given his brief a bit more thought. Poor execution is poor execution, and the last thing I'd like to see is my fellow photographer be led astray by misdirection.
Moving along. As you can see, after a brief spat, Marilyn and I have made amends. God is in His heaven, Pippa Passes, etc. etc. What can I say -- she's a doll, that one! (Hey gram! ;)
And while I was mid-conversation with my new grandmother, Kathy told me to stop talking, which I think is rude, so while you're here, please reprimand her as well. I would very much appreciate it.
Next time someone writes something off subject or off color, I'll be sure to e-mail you about it so you can come set things straight. Thanks, mate.
@djepie since you are going to judge why are you adding critiques onto photos. There is also more than one way to pan and does not have to add big vehicles that are a tad blurry in your examples. You also irked me a bit by only including instructions for canon or nikon, really there is more than one way to skin a cat with only two knives. I like my olympus but already felt put off.
@shades ditto on it being more technique and not just one setting
@marilyn I do not think anyone was trying to bring up such a tough subject for you on purpose.
@gurry I think you and Marilyn have reached a peaceful existence.
@myhrhelper for some reason the fact that you created a challenge where you select people you deem good enough to tell others what to do but do not allow the winners to have any input in the challenge is a bit offensive. What if someone thinks they have a really great setting that works out all the time, but it is not up to your taste.
My intent was to have the winners have an input.
You make a good point to me and yes if the winner has a really great setting that works out for them - moving forward we should allow it.
Originally I thought many of us are trying to learn and were not at a level to offer a challenge, but I can clearly see I was wrong. Even the very first winner Elke could have hosted one since she is a very good photographer. I personally am not at that level yet (I hope to be some day), so just because I'm not doesn't mean others are not.
There really is no particular taste that I have - I just want to learn ways to use my camera without using auto. I can also see that many of these techniques have different settings alternatives of getting the same/similar results. I do think it should be up to whoever is hosting the challenge to decide what the purpose of that particular setting is.
It is ok for the host of the challenge to offer critiques to the photos that is what is encouraged AND other photographers to do that as well.
It is also ok for others to disagree with the critiques and/or offer other ways of doing it. I've seen some of these challenges go like that and which ever method I try I'm learning which is good.
It is not my intention to only support Nikon and Canon users! It's just that I know the settings for Canon and search for the settings for it's biggest competitor. I know great photographers with a Sony or Olympus. so, if you can help people with Olympus settings, great!
And you are right my examples are not perfect at all. They are just examples. I had to launch this csc-7 very quickly, so I had no time to make the shots I had in mind.
My words are not words that have all truth! Therefore I also agreed with @shadesofgrey that also MF could help people.
Hope I made something clear and I removed some misunderstandings?
Now let's trust each other and let's enjoy photography and 365 together!
Hope to see many more panning photos!
@djepie Thanks again for preparing this in no time - I think all participants highly appreciate your efforts. Hope the rest of the week goes smoothly and you won't regret having agreed to host =)
@myhrhelper Thanks for all your efforts in keeping this alive, Kathy. I thoroughly enjoy participating every time I get the chance.
So, enough talk. Here comes my entry!
I tried difference shutter speeds from 1/20 - 1/100.
Wasn't sure exactly what the results were but I started at the 1/50 and I think that was about right. Feedback please.
ADVANCED TIP:
1] Tripod users never should use the camera/lens stabilizer. A stabilizer tries to compensate vibrations by vibrate too, just in a different way. When you use a tripod, you have no vibrations and so the camera vibrations blur you photo! I admit I also forget more than once to switch it off.
All brands have stabilizers, they just all give it an other name. I checked for 4 brands. Canon has IS lensen, Nikon VR lenses, Sony steady shot lenses and Olympus has in-camera stabilizer. Just check your documentation if you don't know if you have a stabilizer and/or how to turn it off.
2] For panning you should turn off your stabilizer too. The vibrations the camera detects, is on purpose panning, which he'll try to compensate. Just try with and without and share your experiences!
There are even lenses with panning options. I know my Canon tele has a stabilizer mode 1 and 2. Mode 1 is two axis, so the standard mode. Mode 2 only correct vertical vibrations, so perfect for panning. Just check your camera/lens!
I didn't say it would be an easy challenge, did I ;-)
Enjoy and share your knowledge and experience!
FYI - I noticed my lens has two switches (never did read the paperwork that came with the lens) 1) auto / manual 2) VR on/off
I always wondered why someone would have it turned off now I learned about that as well! Thank you Jaap
It was shot on a canon 550d camera with 50mm fixed focal lens - I had autofocus and image stablisation on - i used Tv mode iso 100 shutter speed 1/100 and aperature of f5.6
Panning is something I've never got the hang off so will be ggod to give it a go again...
A difficult challenge for me, as I found that if I slowed down my shutter speed enough to show movement I ended up with over-exposed photos...even with my apperature at it's smallest. I probably could have used a monopod for this, also.
Also nice to see that panning even can be used with slow movements, like this walking woman on the second photo.
This challenge has been very stimulating and Sydney was so full of opportunities, I plan on going back there next weekend. This type of photography can be quite addictive - already planning locations and subject types!!
Thanks for an exciting challenge :)
I do think that I had my ISO at 100. I did discover today that I had my white balance set for auto, maybe it should have been set for bright sunlight. The other possibility is that I was picking up a reflection that I was unaware of from somewhere. I just don't know for sure.
This is very tricky, tried it on a few cars but ony got two shots that may have passed for a panning shot.
This was a really good exercise since I had only played with panning briefly without any real interest maybe 12 months ago. Now with some more experience I knew what to try and make adjustments as I saw the results between attempts. I also tried an adjustable ND filter when I went back to my car, and I changed locations. The results were good but the background had some trees which I thought were distracting.
Many thanks again and I'm very interested in following your posts and suggestions.
This was my first try the other day, I was going to try for something better this weekend, but there is a lot going on right now, and I don't know if I will get the chance. Thought this was an ok first attempt.
I see wonderful new photos, but am at the office now, so first have to work.
You can vote on @aurorajane @myhrhelper @newbie @mikegifford @tigerdreamer. Sorry for the other participants, but I had to make a choice :-(