Apparently, beginning in January, Instagram's already terrible Terms of Service will include the fact that Instagram can use your images without informing you, and can sell them to second parties without giving you credit, etc.
Man, I didn't even get round to starting with that site, guess I don't need to now. I suppose there's no argument for a big social networking site using your photos being a big boon for the old creative CV??? obviously suggesting you'd find out when they did it.
What's equally bad is the FB terms of service have been updated with the same qualifications.
"For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it."
The same "transferable, sub-licensable" clause appears for every photo you post to Facebook!
@michaelelliott Geez, I hear you Michael! I think my next move is to clean up my Flickr account, allow Getty images, and post links to facebook for any photos I want to share. To the best of my knowledge Flickr has a pretty good policy protecting photographers.
I allowed Getty on my Flickr and started posting links instead of pics on my facebook. I think it's not only wrong, but really creepy that someone would take my fb pics and use them. I put them on there in the first place for my mom because it was easy to upload them and my mom likes seeing pics of the kids.
@btorrey Exactly Brenda; to me that's what being a "social network" is all about; sharing things with people you want to share them with! But now FB and IG want to take the things you were sharing with friends and family, and sell them to their advertisers. They get the money, you get no credit, and there's nothing you can say about it.
They do say you are protected in as much as your privacy settings allow, but if you have your privacy settings set high enough to protect your images, then nobody can see them; kind of defeats the whole point of sharing things doesn't it?
@kannafoot@grizzlysghost So, if you delete your photos now from FB, can you "save" them from the policy or has FB already implemented its policy and right to use them? Not that my photos are all that, mind you, but there are some I'd like to keep as my own in case they were ever worth $5 or something. :)
FB already implemented it. You can still save them from Instagram, though.
I looked at the ToS on Flickr, and that appears to be the place to post. They explicitly protect your rights as a photographer in their terms of service.
My objection to the FB and Instagram issue is not that I think my photos are valuable or that there is high demand for them. Rather, it's an opposition to the idea that, just by updating their ToS, they can lay claim to everything you write, photograph, or otherwise create. It's the arrogance of it that irritates me most of all.
@rockinrobyn Exactly what @kannafoot said! And your photos are excellent; it would be easy for a company selling picture frames to pay facebook for some of your nice images of your boys for their frames (you know, there is usually a photo in a new frame when you buy it... where do those come from... who are those people?)
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"For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it."
The same "transferable, sub-licensable" clause appears for every photo you post to Facebook!
They do say you are protected in as much as your privacy settings allow, but if you have your privacy settings set high enough to protect your images, then nobody can see them; kind of defeats the whole point of sharing things doesn't it?
I looked at the ToS on Flickr, and that appears to be the place to post. They explicitly protect your rights as a photographer in their terms of service.
My objection to the FB and Instagram issue is not that I think my photos are valuable or that there is high demand for them. Rather, it's an opposition to the idea that, just by updating their ToS, they can lay claim to everything you write, photograph, or otherwise create. It's the arrogance of it that irritates me most of all.