The other Paris ~ 4 by seanoneill

The other Paris ~ 4

The last in this short series before I return to more "positive" shots of Paris. View large to see this ladies sad face.

For me this was the most disturbing of the "down and out" shots. This lady must have been in her 70s, and was tunelessly playing this instrument, and just creating noise. It was thought provoking and upsetting at the same time. It brought a lump to my throat to think of my aunties, my own mother in law, friends of this age. Could they cope with life if this is what it served up to them? Well, I know I couldn't.

So, this series has shown, young, old, men of a working age, older men, younger women and finally older women. I guess it shows that destitution, homelessness and misfortune can hit anyone. I am thankful for what I've got.

The last passage from Orwell's "Down and out in Paris and London" is the longest. I guess it wouldn't surprise you to learn that it is the book I am currently reading. Despite being written 80 years ago, it still has some resonance. I think attitudes have softened towards begging in the UK, and we are more understanding of people who have to resort to this way of existence, but so much of what Orwell says in this next passage is still valid.

"It is worth saying something about the social position of beggars, for when one has consorted with them, and found that they are ordinary human beings, one cannot help being struck by the curious attitude that society takes towards them. People seem to feel that there is some essential difference between beggars and ordinary 'working' men. They are a race apart--outcasts, like criminals and prostitutes. Working men 'work', beggars do not 'work'; they are parasites, worthless in their very nature. It is taken for granted that a beggar does not 'earn' his living, as a bricklayer or a literary critic 'earns' his. He is a mere social excrescence, tolerated because we live in a humane age, but essentially despicable.

Yet if one looks closely one sees that there is no ESSENTIAL difference between a beggar's livelihood and that of numberless respectable people. Beggars do not work, it is said; but, then, what is WORK? A navvy works by swinging a pick. An accountant works by adding up figures. A beggar works by standing out of doors in all weathers and getting varicose veins, chronic bronchitis, etc. It is a trade like any other; quite useless, of course--but, then, many reputable trades are quite useless. And as a social type a beggar compares well with scores of others. He is honest compared with the sellers of most patent medicines, high-minded compared with a Sunday newspaper proprietor, amiable compared with a hire-purchase tout--in short, a parasite, but a fairly harmless parasite. He seldom extracts more than a bare living from the community, and, what should justify him according to our ethical ideas, he pays for it over and over in suffering. I do not think there is anything about a beggar that sets him in a different class from other people, or gives most modern men the right to despise him.

Then the question arises, Why are beggars despised?--for they are despised, universally. I believe it is for the simple reason that they fail to earn a decent living. In practice nobody cares whether work is useful or useless, productive or parasitic; the sole thing demanded is that it shall be profitable. In all the modem talk about energy, efficiency, social service and the rest of it, what meaning is there except 'Get money, get it legally, and get a lot of it'? Money has become the grand test of virtue. By this test beggars fail, and for this they are despised. If one could earn even ten pounds a week at begging, it would become a respectable profession immediately. A beggar, looked at realistically, is simply a businessman, getting his living, like other businessmen, in the way that comes to hand. He has not, more than most modem people, sold his honour; he has merely made the mistake of choosing a trade at which it is impossible to grow rich.”

Thanks for reading.
I admire a lot of Orwell's writings but think he is talking rubbish here.
November 21st, 2013  
@gooner46 You be careful you don't fall off that horse Chris. Thanks for your opinion, once again, I disagree with you.
November 21st, 2013  
Very strong and well composed photo Sean. A definitive fav.

I think one of the reasons beggars are despised has to do with guilt. In our own daily lives with our own petty little problems, we struggle with with being up close and personal to people with real problems. They doesn't fit into our polished view of the society, hence they shouldn't be there. Most people happily donate money to poor children in other places of the world, but we struggle when the same poor people is there, right on our doorsteps. We feel guilty we have that much and they so little, but we want the problem to go away rather than facing it. It's all sad really.
November 21st, 2013  
@primitiveprobe Thanks Andreas, I think you've hit the nail on the head, or should I say sur la tete!!
November 21st, 2013  
I agree with al you say about work & the perception of 'proper' work, I would class begging as darn hard work & of course beggars are in a catch 22 situation as to get work you have to have a permanent address so no hope of getting out of the pit really. We must thank the guy who brought them The Big Issue....give s few of them a chance...as long as we buy it of course!!
I shiver when I think but for .....it could be me in your photo!!!
November 21st, 2013  
@happypat Thanks Pat, me too, I slept rough as a 14 year old on a few occassions, and though that was 34 years ago, it has no redeeming features!
November 21st, 2013  
I have not read this book, and I think it is time I do! I love your witness to it as you travel and reflect with photos I have had experience working with homeless and near homeless people (here and abroad). I think there is an uncomfortableness, something definitely feelable (yes, the word is probably not correct), that some people have a very difficult time wrapping their hearts and minds around getting close to extreme poverty. Instead of drawing nearer, some do the exact opposite. Some may dismiss and say "We will always have the poor," some may say, "Something must be done," but rarely do I hear "I would like to get to know this person." It's a tough business, a tough life, and a tough sell. Orwell pushes buttons. And in my opinion, the right ones here. Nice work Sean. I really enjoyed the Pompidou center also--It reminded me of my friendship with a homeless street performer who I would see on a regular basis there when I studied in Paris (ages ago). I'll never forget being on the Metro and there he was. Both our faces lit up, and I said, "Bonjour Banan"--Yes, he went by Banana! We had a right fun convo right there and I'm sure some people thought it was odd. Thanks for the fond memories.
November 21st, 2013  
@darylo Thank you, given one of the other responses above, I feel vindicated in posting this having read your response to it. I think that the test of time has proven Orwell profoundly right here. Society has changed so much, and so have our own morals, yet what he said still resonates for me. I am so glad that I have rekindled memories for you, from here on I will think of you as @l'amidebanan , perhaps an apt title for your memoirs :-)
November 21st, 2013  
@seanoneill I worked for a charity in this field in London (I am no expert) and find the situation of these folk so sad but there are nearly always a multitude of "causes" (alcohol, drugs, mental health, family breakdown) and rarely a simple solution. There is also often a distrust of institutions and officialdom so that help is frequently rebuffed. Each individual was once a mother's new born - it is all so tragic.
November 21st, 2013  
@gooner46 I am sadly aware of the causes Chris and can only agree with you, where I disagree with you is that you think Orwell was talking rubbish 80 years ago, when I feel so much of what he said is relevant today in part of societies attitude to the homeless. I also feel a resonance with his concept of a beggar being no different to a working man. Another agree to differ for us.

I often give these folk a tenner when I see them in London, but I also make a judgement and will sometimes buy them a sandwich and a coffee instead., knowing that they may do something that I would disapprove off with the cold hard cash in their hands.
November 21st, 2013  
This has been a very thought provoking .series - both the pictures and the words to accompany them. I've never read the book but I'm going to now.
November 21st, 2013  
Strong story. Or are beggars despised because they remind us of what could happen to us? You have to have a certain mental strength to face the truth. I agree on giving food instead of money. I strongly believe in supporting people who ant to make something of their live and provide a safeguard for those that fail.
November 21st, 2013  
Crikey! You've stirred it up here, Sean. I've read the book (long time ago), read your extract, read all the comments/your replies. It would be easy for me to say I agree with Orwell (and I find much of his writing telling and acutely profound) and that I agree with you. But I don't know. I do find begging a problem. I realise there are all sorts of reasons people get into the situation of homelessness and begging. But I still find begging a problem. Most of all I feel sad that there are so many beggars in Paris and other cities and, without patronising them, feel deeply sorry for them and the circumstances they experienced that pushed them to beg. Provoking image and words.
November 21st, 2013  
@ivan a bit of debate makes the world go round Ivan. I appreciate all the opinions on this shot, and think that the photo, post and debate are far more worthy than one of my landscapes, so I'm a contented man here knowing I've provoked thought and debate.
November 21st, 2013  
I do like the culture it adds when people are playing decent music, but what you describe sounds almost haunting and disturbing. Another great , though unfortunate, real life shot, Sean. Thanks for sharing.
November 21st, 2013  
I read Down and Out when I was quite young - too young to feel the full impact of it. Reading your extract today creates great emotion but at the same time I don't share Orwell's thinking. This is a very powerful and excellent photo. It brings to mind a line from a Tom Stoppard,play about beggars in India… Indian Ink - but not the time to discuss that line here. Hope you get to see Michael Kenna again.
November 21st, 2013  
Wow… that's a powerful shot! You should enter it in the National Geographic contest that is happening right now. Check out the link. http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-contest/2013/entries/recent-entries/?source=photomaindl_ngpc2013
November 21st, 2013  
wonderful composition
November 21st, 2013  
@kwind Thank you Kim, that is very kind of you. I will enter it later today.
November 22nd, 2013  
This is quite heartbreaking to view.
November 23rd, 2013  
This image really pulls at my heart. It has such a haunting quality. The viewer is really challenged to think about this woman, what her life is like and about others like her. The musical instrument makes her somehow more real, more relatable and this is challenging for the viewer. It is far too easy to look away from homelessness and poverty. You have created an image that doesn't let that happen. It's a big fav for me. Thank you for sharing the other face of Paris. Definitely not one that I imagine from where I sit. Thank you also for sharing the book excerpt. It's very powerful and just as true today as it was when it was written.
November 25th, 2013  
@pflaume @cazla Thank you both. I am rarely shocked by what I see in life, and have seen my own personal share of suffering. This lady though is still in my mind and 10 days later I am finding it hard to shake this image. I am pondering contacting Shelter to see what I can do locally at Christmas, and also whether there is room for some of my photos in their work. I would love to do a 100 homeless strangers shots, or better still bring 100 together from around the world.
November 25th, 2013  
Very powerful shot. Artistically I love it. Very sad though.
December 1st, 2013  
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