New User tips to help out the "Resolutioners" (and everybody else)

December 17th, 2011
What have you learned about this site in your time on here that you think would help out a newbie? I know that a lot of discussion threads get started asking the same questions. Chime in with whatever you think would help someone new navigate this site or get the best experience. I will compile everything I can think of along with everything you great people give me and post it in January when we get the influx of new users.


Maybe if we get enough good ideas Ross will want to make it a sticky on the discussion boards!


So I had this idea a while ago and another user on here ( I thought I remembered who but I cannot find the thread now) started something similar. If you remember contributing to that thread, please re-contribute to this one, all the help I can get is definitely appreciated. :)
December 17th, 2011
Keep going regardless of the quality of your daily shot. Got to make a lot of crap before you make anything worthwhile.
December 17th, 2011
Don't compare yourself and your work to other people - to paraphrase the Desiderata, there will always be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Your project is your own. Do what you can, when you can, with what you can.

Pressing on the little magnifying glass on the page where a picture shows will let you "view it large", which people often encourage you to do. Please do not ask me how long it took me to figure that out. *headdesk*
December 17th, 2011
@beautifulthing I figured it out in September. I started in January. FML.
December 17th, 2011
check the popular page, latest uploads and suggested photos pages for inspiration.

carry your camera with you at ALL times, no matter how cumbersome. I bought a new purse to accomodate mine.

shoot for yourself and no one else. photography is personal, and if you don't make it personal, it will show in your work.

if you're interested enough, take a class. there are people here who are professionals and students, all of whom are willing to help, but respect the fact that they have spent time and money to get where they are and do the same for yourself.

don't knock the mobile phone photo, and don't apologize for it. if the only photo you took "that day" is of your trash can with your iPhone, post it.

find a personal meme (action figure, doll, person, vase, pen, whatever) and use it in times that you are stuck for a photo.

explore macro shots.. don't worry that people may get tired of them.

participate in the theme every week if you can.

do other "contests" like WWYD that were started by users of the site

LOVE YOUR CAMERA! NO MATTER WHAT IT IS! :D
December 17th, 2011
@john244 Love it!! :) I don't feel so alone now. I would "view sizes", pick the link for Large, and open that separately in my browser. And I would be all, um, um, I don't know why everyone thinks you should go to SOO much trouble to see their darn pictures large.

Another *headdesk*.
December 17th, 2011
It's not necessary to post daily cause editing, uploading, writing captions and adding tags take time. But at the very least, keep shooting daily.

Feel free to post any type of photo you wish except anything pornographic. Abstract photos, light paintings, HDR, drawings, even nude photos are fine if you feel that is the best way to express yourself.

Don't be discouraged by other peoples' photos; instead, use them as motivation to do better!

Forget the Popular Page. It is a JOKE! I've seen photos with 400 views and 30 likes make the Popular Page right next to a photo with 10 views and 4 likes. Seriously. I wrote those numbers down one night. The Popular Page is a joke so don't be discouraged if your photo "doesn't make" it.

The equipment doesn't matter. Some people have a Nikon D700 with professional lenses and strobes. Others have Fujifilm FinePix P&S cameras. Some even use their cellphones. But if you can't paint, it doesn't matter how nice your brush is. It's all about the photographer.

Join in discussions frequently. Share your opinion. Tell us a useful story.

Don't be afraid to offer critiques. You don't have to be a professional to have an opinion. You don't need to know fancy photography terms. It's crooked, blurry, too dark, so sad, that's all you need.

Follow people. It is not necessary to follow every person who follows you. Look at the past month of a person. See if they have photos that match your style. Something you can offer advice about. Photos you are interested in seeing each day.

Don't be afraid to be a little personal. Keeping your project strictly business will keep people at a distance. Don't just show us your photos, tell us the story of how you got it!

Don't respond with a "Thank you" for every comment a person leaves. When you are following 200 people getting a notification for each "thank you" you get leaves you with dozens each morning!

Never, ever be afraid to ask a question. Start a new discussion. Ask away. Sometimes a questions will cause a debate, but that just gives you a good basis for a decision.

If you don't want people asking personal questions or carrying on casual conversations, just tell them. Or better yet, put that information in your profile so everyone can read it.

When leaving comments don't just say "it sucks" or "that's awesome" be more precise. What sucks about hte photo? What do you think is awesome?

Have fun! Whatever happens, whoever you meet, wherever your project takes you just remember this is a place to share your amazing photos, learn how to be better, and just have fun!
December 17th, 2011
@jasonbarnette "Don't respond with a "Thank you" for every comment a person leaves. When you are following 200 people getting a notification for each "thank you" you get leaves you with dozens each morning!" Oops. I do this. :( I didn't think of it that way, though. More *headdesk*.
December 17th, 2011
@beautifulthing How about one more headdesk just for good measure?
December 17th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Just because you asked - sure. :)
December 17th, 2011
If you are anything like @beautifulthing buy a cushion for your desk ;)
December 17th, 2011
@jasehoad Dude, you have no idea. I need a desk made of rubber, as much of the day as I spend banging my head into it. A desk made of marshmallows.
December 17th, 2011
@beautifulthing I would be one fat dude if I had a marshmallow desk! (and no desk left after a day or two)
December 17th, 2011
@shadesofgrey Yeah - maybe that idea is NOT so good. :)
December 17th, 2011
@shadesofgrey @beautifulthing Are THESE the kinds of tips you want to leave for new users? You two are gonna scare off the new talent!
December 17th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Look, he's just going to end up copying-and-pasting yours and Stacy's post, because between the two of you, you have it covered with awesomeness. I also pitched in with my stupidity, and, together, @shadesofgrey and I are covering how to hijack a thread, which, as you know, is a very beneficial skill. Don't make me call sakurity.
December 17th, 2011
@jasonbarnette awww geez I said I would compile them and re-post! By the time they figure out how to search the site, they will (hopefully) have learned that we are crazy folks !
December 17th, 2011
How about - take a photo everyday. A fairly clear and simple thing for a site that's about taking a photo every day!

Been doing it over 2 years and it ain't difficult.

People need to chill out about the PP, views, quality of pic, blah blah blah and enjoy it for what it is... a rather simple idea of documenting a day in your life through a photo.!

Enough said.............!

December 17th, 2011
@beautifulthing @shadesofgrey Yooooooo...Butch and Sundance....

December 17th, 2011
@jasonbarnette



I get to be Sundance. He has to be Butch.
December 17th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Don't tempt Shelly with a good time!
@beautifulthing
December 17th, 2011
@shadesofgrey @jasonbarnette Oh boy. Now it's awkward.
December 17th, 2011
@beautifulthing I'll be butch any day! I mean um...you know like the cowboy not like the...oh you get it.
December 17th, 2011
@jasonbarnette
I respond with a "thank you" for every comment I get, and will continue to do so, thank you very much. :)
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@beautifulthing @jasonbarnette I let my own discussion get hijacked! *shakes head and goes to make another drink....
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@shadesofgrey Aw, sweetie, it's not your fault. It was an awfully nice discussion. And a couple of people said some very useful things. About hatin'.
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@beautifulthing Hopefully I'll get some more nice comments about actually using this site, rather than well what Jason seems to think are good photos.
December 17th, 2011
@shadesofgrey We could always go back and delete them - although there's been some fine visual commentary and low-key innuendo going on here...
December 17th, 2011
@jasonbarnette @beautifulthing Ok, this is going in the tip folder-----HTH do you get a photo on a discussion on here w/o putting it in your album?
December 17th, 2011
@shadesofgrey See the blue link, How can I format my reply?, underneath the box in which I am typing this very comment? The HTML to do it is there.
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December 17th, 2011
@beautifulthing AHA! I never knew how to use that...dually noted!
December 17th, 2011
@autumnseden did a discussion back in July/August
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December 17th, 2011
@brumbe THANK YOU! I was way off on who I thought it might have been and I could not find the discussion for the life of me to see if she was still around and if she was planning on posting it like she had said! This one has devolved into another 365 friday nite anway! LOL
December 17th, 2011
@shadesofgrey Sigh...and I was all set to be the hostess with the mostess. :(
December 17th, 2011
Found it. Sorry to not post photos of stuff, but this will get you there. I guess we may need to start examining our Friday nights. You have a kid, I just happen to be home. http://365project.org/discuss/general/8398/getting-started-guide-for-365
December 17th, 2011
@brumbe That is exactly why I enjoy these things!
December 17th, 2011
@beautifulthing You still can, I found the discussion and I will add to it with the suggestions on here! We can hijack all night for all I care! :)
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@jasonbarnette I must agree with everything you say (in your first post here, that is). You've summed it all up perfectly! Well said!
December 17th, 2011
@brumbe Thanks for remembering me and sharing the discussion! =D
December 17th, 2011
@shadesofgrey @jasonbarnette I am unfollowing you both for ruining Friday night. I will refollow you right after I do it, but I hope you both feel a tiny sting of rejection. :P
December 17th, 2011
@autumnseden Sorry I didn't remember, I really did try and find it too....you can totally have these suggestions to add to yours! I figured I would solicit suggestions since it was only a couple of weeks away!
December 17th, 2011
@beautifulthing Well I kinda* have an excuse.....I fell asleep with the kiddo! I read him a couple of stories and cuddled him up and said it was time for bed. Boy was I right! whoops......it does sting.
December 17th, 2011
Ok, so it's Saturday morning here and some of you might suffer from sore heads due to all the *headdesk*...

here are some things I would've found very helpful to know: explain at least two of the random abbreviations in use! caused a few *headdesk* moments for me and took me a few painful weeks to catch on...WWYD, SOOC!
December 17th, 2011
Talk! Share! I love it when people leave long or more personal messages on my photos as well as the usual "this is nice" :) I often write quite a bit to go with my photos and its just fun getting to know people, having a conversation, building a relationship. many people prefer to keep their projects at a bit of a distance and that is absolutely fine, but don't be afraid to be yourself and say what you want to say when commenting :)

Secondly... NEVER FAV A PHOTO BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. of course, there are photos on this website which are almost 'universally' moving or impressive and so its not surprising that some get loads and loads of favs and end up on the pop page. all well and good :) but if something makes you laugh, cry, be hopeful, be humbled - fav it for that reason alone, and don't be fooled into it because you've been tricked into thinking some types of photos are more worthwhile than others. our viewpoints are all unique - keep your own stance on what types of photography you like and dislike, and don't always define the "best" photos by what you find on the pop page.
December 17th, 2011
@beautifulthing @jasonbarnette
Before gross misuse of a thread began I agreed, I still dream about the PP though.....even if it is a magical, mystery world far beyond my grasp
December 18th, 2011
@shadesofgrey: Cool of you to have posted this and offer a compilation. I thought of a couple -

Tag your photos - I left off doing that months ago and now am stuck with going back and filling in because after months and months, it's easy to forget what I've taken, when, etc. - and it's nice to be able to find some of them more quickly than looking month by month 'til I find it.

I keep adding others and then erasing them because they become another in the list of my pet peeves. What a downer that could be for the new arrivals.

Above all, please yourself with how you use your project.

This is a little peevish but, please don't apologize for anything - your cam, how the shot turned out, that it's a "filler," etc. When I see that kind of stuff, I skip over the shot and don't even enlarge it to look at it most of the time.







December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing Actually...well see it's like this. My friends don't take me to see horror movies cause when the music starts to pick up and the man with the ax comes out of no where and everyone else is scared...I laugh. I laughed my ass through the first two Saw movies so nobody wanted me to go with them after that.

So when I saw that you were now following this morning...yeah I laughed.
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Aww...I know. It stung a little and you don't know how to show it. S'okay. :) P.S. The Saw movies are the best. And, pretty funny, too.
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing Haha...do you think there is an emotion I'm capable of NOT showing to the world?
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette I think history has proven there's not much of ANYTHING you're not capable of showing to the world. :)
December 18th, 2011
I think the nicest way to thank someone for commenting on your photo is to respond in kind, on their's. reciprocity is a beautiful thing. also, thanking people in your narrative is a wonderful thing. just my opinion. too many notifications are just overwhelming. . .
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing LMAO! Yeah...this is true now. Oh man. I used to be so shy I wouldn't even look up while I walked. What happened???
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette You found your voice. Figuratively and literally. :) You also embraced The Shadow. Figuratively, and well, literally, I can only guess... :-X
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing Haha...now I just gotta find a little miss to embrace The Shadow as much as I have! Wow. Yeah I need to shut up now.
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Is it even possible for someone to embrace it as much as I'm guessing you have? :) P.S. While you're framing your witty reply, open up another browser window and go look at my Flickr. I was busting ass today. :)
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing You think I have time to waste on Flickr?? Seriously?? OK...be right back haha.
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette For me, you MAKE time for Flickr. Nao. :) Just take a gander.
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing Wow. It's like that, huh?

Yes...awesome job! I need to start leaving comments on Flickr. I haven't done that very much yet. You really got that street photography art down though. Great job with that lens. I mean...you kinda told the story of your life in one afternoon.
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette "You kinda told the story of your life in one afternoon". That makes me smile so much. I love that. I told a story. :) It was a great afternoon, the best I have had since I don't know when. You don't has to leave comments - it's cool to me that you took the time to look. :)

Still smiling. :)
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing Haha...I *always* look. I've been really busy the last couple of days...and kinda lazy....so you just gotta point the way! I'm still trying to get caught up on 365 photos and have dozens left to see :(
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Aw, hun, that's easy. Just look at mine first. :) Then look at the others as time permits. When you run out of time, look at mine again. Thank you. That is all.
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing Haha...easier said then done! I was supposed to be asleep two hours ago. Oops.
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Sleep schmeep. I need SOMEONE to stay awake with me. Grr. :)
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing I gots nothing to keep my eyes open! But it helps your case that I'm too lazy to get out of the chair and get in bed haha
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Aw...you need something to help you stay up? :) Try vodka. Surely you have some vodka. Go get some.
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing Actually, alcohol knocks me out unless I'm up and moving around! But let's see...yeah...I've got vodka, Jack, Jager, Crown, 99 Bananas, Sam Adams, Corona, and some new shit I picked up to try it out. I am NOT an alcoholic!
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Oh, neither am I. In fact, I picked out the fanciest glass I have tonight to drink my vodka from, to show how refined and classy I am. Jager is no good. Jager makes me whorish.

I am the opposite - anything that is supposed to knock me out wakes me up. I am a conundrum.
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing I am a mystery wrapped in an enigma shrouded in why am I still talking? THAT just explained my life.
December 18th, 2011
@jasonbarnette Shrouded in controversy and smothered with awesome sauce.

I added that last part. Me FTW. :)
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing ahhhh, the magnifying glass...

well whaddyaknow?
December 18th, 2011
Is this site for chatter or do you really want us to post suggestions for newbies?
December 18th, 2011
@shadesofgrey

- No fancy equipment required.
- Where all the buttons are and what they do.
(The top menu and then also: calender view, magnifying glass, edit/+Fav, view more sizes, exif info, and "flashback" that only appears after a month.)
- Clicking "reply" to answer someone back (tagging in a post)
- Photography terms and abbreviations
(aperture, ISO, shutter speed, EV, bokeh, vignette, DOF, POV, SOOC, etc)
Here's a link to a A-Z glossary.
There are a lot of terms that would probably be too advanced (quite a few I didn't know about) but for your learning pleasure, go right ahead and take a look :)
- Info on themes and competitions and tagging to enter
- How HTML works
- Some basic rules like don't steal pics from the web and pass it off as your own, all that.

On a more personal level I'd give some advice:
- Every single photo does not have to be amazeballs, just do the best you can for the day.
- Try to at least keep with taking a shot every day even if you won't be able to edit and caption it right away or upload regularly. The point of this project isn't the UPLOAD, it's in the TAKING of a photo a day.
- Don't let one person's opinion on how things should work on this site get you down. DO YOUR PROJECT LIKE YOU SEE FIT. Like when people say they hate it when someone uploads a week's worth of pics over the weekend because it 'clogs up' their home page. It's about YOUR schedule. I'm sure they'd appreciate you paying for their assistant :) And this thank you thing. My word, what has 365 come to if it's considered rude to thank someone for saying something nice on a photo you worked hard on??? I mean I don't always have the time for it myself, but when I first started out I got like two comments a week so you really appreciate the ones you get.
- Oh yeah, and popular page is totally a bust.
December 18th, 2011
@buttercup The thread was started for tips and got hijacked!
December 18th, 2011
First thought for newbies-don't hijack threads-no one will like that.
December 18th, 2011
@shadesofgrey Yeah. You really should have kept that hijacking in line! It's horrrrrrrible.
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing I tried....drunk hooligans came in here and just took it over!
December 18th, 2011
@shadesofgrey And two nights in a row, to boot. Le sigh!
December 18th, 2011
@beautifulthing I know I missed out on it last night...had a christmas party to go to! I thought about starting a thread called "Hijack this thread" just for stuff like that....I figure it would die out very soon because people wouldn't have a subject to deviate from so they wouldn't contribute...?
December 18th, 2011
@shadesofgrey Yes. I think I prefer happy accidents myself. :)
December 18th, 2011
Sorry to interrupt the hijacking, but you forgot to mention ACE membership it is well worth it in supporting Ross for putting up the site (and some of us :)
December 18th, 2011
@hjbenson Please interrupt away! Yes ACE is definitely worth it!
December 19th, 2011
I would agree with much of the above- especially the ace membership and making your project your project and not being bound to a major set of rules or making every shot spectacular. Here's another one I thought of: when you're considering who to follow choose not only people whom you can relate to, but also people who shoot different subjects that you might not take. This will help spur your own creativity and your ability to look at things in a different way. Choose some people because their photographs inspire you to be a better photographer, and choose others because you sense a connection with them- as in you are in a similar life phase. Get a variety of photographers to follow and watch your world expand!!
December 19th, 2011
One of my favourite things about the project is following people from different parts of the world - seeing our fabulous planet through their shots is incredible and it's amazing how different yet how similar we are.
One of the worst things is the 'what can I do next?' moment.... I have frozen a few times and thought 'I'm not going to make it to 365' then browsed the latest/popular pages or even my own faves and got inspiration. Doing this project has opened my eyes to so many lovely things around me. I haven't done a theme yet but will do when my brain freezes again...
And yes, opening several notifications which all say 'thank you' to a list of people is lovely but can be very time consuming..personal messages are great.
Enjoy your project and be inspired, not daunted, by the amazing shots some people manage to produce!
December 19th, 2011
oh... i've got one... but it's gonna piss some people off. here goes nothing...

people who start a thread crying about not having enough followers or peeps looking at their pics; and anything else that may be deemed as pathetic.

jesus... get a grip. who cares. it's just a site. have fun... share your pics and lighten up. if peeps don't look at your pics or you don't have enough followers, it'll either happen or it won't. do this for yourself. and be the best YOU can be. who gives a shit what anybody else thinks?

other than that, i think this site is amazing... i LOVE seeing what others see here and there is so much talent on this site it's disgusting. i am humbled by it and realize more and more just how much i really need to learn in all things photography.
December 19th, 2011
A walk through step by step guide for all beginners on how to post your pictures to a thread / competition, and a easy to find button so that everyone could get involved without having to raise the same question...!
December 19th, 2011
@beautifulthing @jasonbarnette
"I think history has proven there's not much of ANYTHING you're not capable of showing to the world. :)"

Nah Shells, he drew the line at revealing The Shadow on a beach crowded with kiddies! Not sure why though, as sexual perversion in adults is only prevalent in societies where sex and nudity are hidden from children! In indigenous societies where kids see/hear their parents having sex on a regular basis and everyone walks around nude in their daily lives, rape, impotency and other sexual/violent issues are non-existent! How's THAT for hijacking a thread??!

I actually have useful suggestions for newbies, but I have to ruuun......
December 20th, 2011
@tabbycat Great hijack and looking forward to your tips!
December 20th, 2011
@shadesofgrey Oh yea, thanks for reminding me! I'm easily distracted!

Great idea about the sticky BTW. Perhaps someone should take all the useful info out of this and compile it into a "Getting started with 365" sticky. I'd be more than happy to do that and send it to Ross for review as I have time on my hands right now!

1. Definitely @caddick ! How to add your photo to a discussion thread (I notice a lot of folks are confused about that - I certainly was!)
2. Is there a "Welcome to 365 - here's how you do stuff" email when you sign up? Is there is, I can't remember getting one.
3. If you're really into photography and on a budget, offer to assist a local photographer for free. You'll learn heaps!! Also, your local library will have loads of books you can teach yourself with!
4. If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong. There is no other way to do this project wrong!

If we are chatting to Ross about possible improvements to the site, I would also go with a "subcribe' button on discussions and competitions, because often I enter a comp, then get busy with things, then by the time I think to check on who won, I can't even find the dang thing anymore!

Yeah, that's all i got for now! ..except for maybe Ross buying lots of lottery tickets so there is a chance that maybe one day, 365 can give away cars and cruises and shit for winning comps! LOL!
December 20th, 2011
@tabbycat I am planning on making a Welcome to 365 type thread just after the new year.....but @jasonbarnette is upstaging me and writing a damn book! (albeit a lot more in depth!) @autumnseden started a thread a while back about this too. I want her to do it since it was her idea first....but as long as it gets done, that is the main thing. Thanks for the insights!
December 20th, 2011
@tabbycat @shadesofgrey I think I want the both of you to review my book The Ups, Down, Ins, Outs, Twists, Curves, and Fun of the 365 Project. I'm hoping the book will be a guide on how to use the site, answer the so-popular questions people tend to ask all the friggin' time, and also give people a greater understanding of the site.
December 20th, 2011
@jasonbarnette I would be more than happy to do that (seriously).
December 20th, 2011
Ha! Yeah, he does that! :-) i've written three books myself in the last few years.

@jasonbarnette Thanks man, I'm in! I can be pretty anal about spelling and punctuation, so I'll be useful in that regard! ...and I'm sure four heads think better than three, so if you want to send it to @autumnseden, I'm sure she'd love to review it too...
What's the time frame on this manuscript? Given that you already seem to work 25 hours a day? :-O
January 10th, 2012
I'm a newbie and I've got a tip that I have seen in so many discussions, and I read a lot of them......use the search box. I found that tip on my first day , and every time a " how do I do that, where do I put that, what does that mean?" question comes into my head, I search the words and bingo there's my answer.
I also got advised to get Ace membership from a 365 friend.
January 11th, 2012
@onie Thanks! I compiled these suggestions and others from another thread into a "Getting Started Guide" that got buried fairly quickly after it was posted....but new users have found their way to it..... I like my ACE because of the stats and the extra albums, it's more of a personal thing really. But some people have said that the fact that they paid kept them motivated!
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