@ubobohobo Yes they used to be Margaret. I have 50 long stem bushes which flower fom Early October till early August when I prune them. Due to our drought and not being able to use any fertilizer, they have not done well at all this year. It breaks my heart to see them go.......
@ludwigsdiana thats very similar to my story i had a glorious garden of roses and carnations but drought put them under stress and disease took over. I know how you feel.